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Boeser

Créé par: LIRIK
Date de création initiale: 5 déc. 2022
Publié: 5 déc. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Description
VAN save 3.25M for the next 3 seasons. MTL can afford that, and Boeser could be flipped in 2025.

Can MTL get more value from another team using that 3.25M cap space for the next 3 years?
Transactions
MTL
  1. Boeser, Brock
VAN
  1. Armia, Joel
Rachats de contrats
  • Karl Alzner: 833 333 $
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $82 872 499 $1 132 500 $5 277 500 $-372 499 $
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Pitlick, Rem
1 100 000 $
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Suzuki, Nick
7 875 000 $
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UFA - 8
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Gallagher, Brendan
6 500 000 $
AD
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UFA - 5
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Slafkovsky, Juraj
950 000 $
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RFA - 3
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Monahan, Sean
6 375 000 $
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UFA - 1
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Anderson, Josh
5 500 000 $
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UFA - 5
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880 833 $
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4 450 000 $
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5 000 000 $
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750 000 $
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1 700 000 $
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UFA - 3
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Dach, Kirby
3 362 500 $
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RFA - 4
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Boeser, Brock
6 650 000 $
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UFA - 3
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Matheson, Michael
4 875 000 $
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Savard, David
3 500 000 $
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Allen, Jake
2 875 000 $
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UFA - 1
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Edmundson, Joel
3 500 000 $
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UFA - 2
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Kovacevic, Johnathan
766 667 $
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Montembeault, Samuel
1 000 000 $
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UFA - 2
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Guhle, Kaiden
863 333 $
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RFA - 3
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Wideman, Chris
762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
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Harris, Jordan
842 500 $
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RFA - 1
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Xhekaj, Arber
828 333 $
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RFA - 2
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Drouin, Jonathan
5 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 4
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Hoffman, Mike
4 500 000 $
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Byron, Paul
3 400 000 $
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5 déc. 2022 à 22 h 0
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Vancouver would probably want futures
5 déc. 2022 à 22 h 0
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Boeser isn’t being traded for a cap dump man
5 déc. 2022 à 22 h 6
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Vancouver would probably want futures


Quoting: GeneralLandro
Boeser isn’t being traded for a cap dump man


According to Canucks insiders, Boeser is considered a cap dump amongst the league. Armia is a bigger cap dump, but Vancouver would save 3.25M for 3 years
5 déc. 2022 à 22 h 10
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According to Canucks insiders, Boeser is considered a cap dump amongst the league. Armia is a bigger cap dump, but Vancouver would save 3.25M for 3 years


I think he just needs a change of scenery. Would still get a positive return
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5 déc. 2022 à 22 h 23
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According to Canucks insiders, Boeser is considered a cap dump amongst the league. Armia is a bigger cap dump, but Vancouver would save 3.25M for 3 years

So Boeser @ $6.6M is a cap dump with 15pts in 19 games and Monahan @ $6.3M with 16pts in 24 games is worth a 1st? Interesting logic.
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5 déc. 2022 à 22 h 25
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So Boeser $6.6M is a cap dump with 15pts in 19 games and Monahan $6.3M with 16pts in 24 games is worth a 1st? Interesting logic.


Have you taken into account Monahan plays in Montreal? That obviously makes his value way higher. All their players are worth 1st round picks!
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5 déc. 2022 à 22 h 26
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According to Canucks insiders, Boeser is considered a cap dump amongst the league. Armia is a bigger cap dump, but Vancouver would save 3.25M for 3 years


Throw a link to back this up, then.

I can imagine the Canucks being disappointed with Boeser, sure, but the fact remains he's always been an offensive minded forward and he's put up 15 pts in 19 GP this season. That's actually 1 more point than Joel Armia put up in 60 GP - and 14 more points than Armia has scored so far this season. Get out of here with thinking there's any universe where this is a straight one for one swap.
5 déc. 2022 à 22 h 28
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A Montreal trade that didn't include Josh Anderson and 3 1st round picks coming back? I'm shocked. Also, Vancouver hangs up
5 déc. 2022 à 22 h 33
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5 déc. 2022 à 22 h 41
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Quoting: dannibalcorpse
Throw a link to back this up, then.

I can imagine the Canucks being disappointed with Boeser, sure, but the fact remains he's always been an offensive minded forward and he's put up 15 pts in 19 GP this season. That's actually 1 more point than Joel Armia put up in 60 GP - and 14 more points than Armia has scored so far this season. Get out of here with thinking there's any universe where this is a straight one for one swap.


https://www.tsn.ca/video/o-neill-boeser-s-big-cap-hit-could-make-a-trade-awfully-difficult~2577827

Also, the fact that VAN allowed him to speak with every teams probably means they couldn't find any trade partner themselves. Boeser will have to convince GMs.

Armia for Boeser would give Vancouver 3.25M cap space for the next 3 years. That's their win.
5 déc. 2022 à 22 h 48
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https://www.tsn.ca/video/o-neill-boeser-s-big-cap-hit-could-make-a-trade-awfully-difficult~2577827

Also, the fact that VAN allowed him to speak with every teams probably means they couldn't find any trade partner themselves. Boeser will have to convince GMs.

Armia for Boeser would give Vancouver 3.25M cap space for the next 3 years. That's their win.


Saying "he's difficult to move because of his cap" in the middle of the season is the same thing you can say about any top-6 pending UFA with a cap hit over $5M.

Vancouver would be better off trading Boeser for FCs than taking back a pylon like Joel Armia. They're currently cap compliant, so there's no need to save cap mid-season, and I'm sure if they put Boeser on the trade block with a 2x$6.65M cap hit this summer some team will offer up value for him.

Using your logic, the Islanders could offer Ross Johnston straight up for Brock Boeser and it would beat this deal because it will save them $5.55M over the next 3 years. Do you really think Vancouver would make that trade?
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5 déc. 2022 à 23 h 16
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There is no world where the Canucks take this offer. If a forward gets moved, they will be looking for a top 4 RHD, 2023 1st, or other futures in return. Boeser definitely doesn't have the value to return a top 4 RHD right now, and quite possibly wouldn't return a 1st either. Best course of action is to just move forward with Boeser, especially if these are the kind of offers out there.
5 déc. 2022 à 23 h 30
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5 déc. 2022 à 23 h 36
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Boeser's value is low, but it isn't this low...
6 déc. 2022 à 0 h 5
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Quoting: dannibalcorpse
Saying "he's difficult to move because of his cap" in the middle of the season is the same thing you can say about any top-6 pending UFA with a cap hit over $5M.

Vancouver would be better off trading Boeser for FCs than taking back a pylon like Joel Armia. They're currently cap compliant, so there's no need to save cap mid-season, and I'm sure if they put Boeser on the trade block with a 2x$6.65M cap hit this summer some team will offer up value for him.

Using your logic, the Islanders could offer Ross Johnston straight up for Brock Boeser and it would beat this deal because it will save them $5.55M over the next 3 years. Do you really think Vancouver would make that trade?


They would do it to save more cap space. Armia is a bigger cap dump than Johnston. Would NYI spend 6.65M over 3 years for a 5v5 disaster 2nd PP slow RW?

Boeser have 0 value just like Bjorkstrand or even Pacioretty last summer. I'm even considering Anderson to be in the same situation.

Moving cap space is becoming really hard in that league with the cap barely increasing last summer and probably next year too.
 
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