Monahan and Edmundson will be offered only if other team give back a first rounder in 2023 - Kent Hughes on the phone with several Dg among those calling their is Edmonton .... Geezzz our GM is going to war!

1st for Edmundson for sure. Monahan might get a return like Copp last year. I hope both get 1st. I really trust Hughes will do a good job again this year.

Ngl, Eddy has been kinda meh recently. If he can improve his game a bit and stay healthy until TDL, he could get a late first. As for Monahan, he is easily getting a first😃

I think Edmundson easily gets a 1st because he's got 2 years left at only 1.75M is MTL retains half. That's a very good deal for a top 4 physical D.

I know it shouldn't change anything, but i think with Monahan being dumped last summer for a 1st, teams will be hesitant. I think a Copp return would be fair for both teams.

Maybe i'm being too reasonable on Monahan's value. I guess we'll see if Kent Hughes can be as good this year as he was at last year trade deadline.

Ahh, yes if we retain 50% on Eddy then I agree that he gets a first. Monahan has been stellar, .74 ppg I think. 60 point pace guy for 3M should get a first in this market, possibly more depending on what Hughes can do.

Is it possible for Edmunson to get a first? Sure maybe, some GMs might be stupid enough. I don't think Monahan gets more than a second round pick though. I can't remember the last time in NHL history that a player gets dumped for a first round pick, and then traded for a first round pick in less than a year. Just doesn't seem realistic

I don't think a GM is stupid for trading for a player to try to win. To get where they are, they have to be good at hockey. I think some just don't value picks as much as others.

We rarely see players being dumped for a 1st, especially players with top 6 potential. Monahan might be the first. I'm not sure if the fact he was dumped last summer will affect his value. I think it shouldn't. If he can produce as a top 6 forward and teams want him, why wouldn't they trade for him? He's proving he is healthy this year, Sutter even said he's never seen him move like that in the last 2 years.

I'm pretty sure GM's are THAT stupid that they will overlook the fact that Monahan was considered negative value a few months ago...

If he's back to being a 60 points player, why would they be stupid to want him on their team?

In fact, it would be stupid for them to not consider him only because he was dumped a few months ago...

Because he is not on pace to hit 60 points. His good 24 games this season doesn't outweigh his poor play from the last 3 seasons.

His last seasons don't matter. He is a rental. If he can perform well now, that's all that is needed for a contending team.

Then just curious to what you think Horvat is worth.

Multiple first for sure. 2 1st, good prospect, 2nd.

You see, you propose that kind of trade anywhere, you will get clowned for it. I can only dream of seeing that kind of return, but it isn't realistic.

Sorry, 55 points. Big difference i guess...

He was playing injured on the 3 seasons showed. Nobody will look at that. GMs will look at this year because he's now healthy.

Looking at his 2016-2019 seasons would make more sense.

Obviously, in both Monahan's and Horvat's case, we are taking for granted that they keep more or less the same play they have now. But if Bo keeps it up till TDL, for sure it is possible to get that kind of return. Plus, there are a LOT of playoff contenders this year, so more competition for players.

Looking at his play from 4-6 years makes no sense as he was in his prime back then. He is no longer in his prime. You know who else was good 4-6 years ago? Jamie Benn, Tyler Seguin, Phil Kessel, Jeff Carter. You seriously GMs will value his stats from over 5 years ago instead of his last 3 seasons?

It makes as much sense to look at the 3 years he was hurt than looking at 4-6 years ago. That's why i think GMs will only look at this year.

So far he's a 55 points top 6 player who can play wings or center.

Oilers reject
Dont need or want eddy

Holland traded a 2nd (Lane Hutson) for Brett Kulak who was in and out of the Habs lineup most nights.

Ken Holland could trade every prospect in the cupboard from the Oilers for Edmundson and i wouldn't be surprised. That crosscheck he gave to Hyman last night milked his value even more in Kenny's eyes, I'm sure.

The past is irrelevant. Dvorak is not worth more because MTL paid more and Monahan is not worth less because MTL paid less.

I think the logic here is that Monahan hasn't played to the extent that he goes from being negative value to being worth a lot within less than 1 year. He has been solid this year, but I'm not sure it outweighs his poor play over the last 3 seasons

Still 40 games to go 'til TDL, everyone's speculating right now but if he keeps going at his .66ppg pace and shows he can still excel at the being a 2C or 1LW he'll be worth it for any team looking to get a rental. Montreal can even likely get a contract back which will negate Monahan's contract completely.