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Lafreniere et Kakko

Créé par: habslife
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 2 déc. 2022
Publié: 2 déc. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
87 875 000 $
22 500 000 $
2925 000 $
21 750 000 $
88 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
24 000 000 $
31 850 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Kakko, Kaapo
  2. Lafrenière, Alexis [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (DAL)
NYR
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Slafkovsky, Juraj
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
2.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
WPG
  1. Barron, Justin
  2. Dvorak, Christian
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
3.
4.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
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2024
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2025
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
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UFA - 8
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
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RFA - 2
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
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RFA - 1
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885 000 $885 000 $ (Bonis de performance80 000 $$80K)
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RFA - 3
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $
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RFA - 1
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
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UFA - 3
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 3
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
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UFA - 1

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2 déc. 2022 à 21 h 39
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2 déc. 2022 à 21 h 42
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Anderson isn’t worth a first with that contract. Period. Dreaming is fine at night, but keep the delusions to yourself.
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2 déc. 2022 à 21 h 49
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Lafreniere is better than Slaf. Four Andersons are not worth a first and kakko.
2 déc. 2022 à 21 h 51
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MTL decline. Slafkovsky is worth more than Lafreniere. Kakko and a 10 spot jump in the draft isn't enough for Anderson.
2 déc. 2022 à 22 h 19
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Why would Lafreniere be worth more than Dach, who just was traded for a 13OA?

And MTL will probably get a 1st+ for Anderson. Why would they trade him for Kakko and moving up 10 spots in the draft?
3 déc. 2022 à 5 h 47
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Why would Lafreniere be worth more than Dach, who just was traded for a 13OA?

And MTL will probably get a 1st+ for Anderson. Why would they trade him for Kakko and moving up 10 spots in the draft?


Are you talking about Josh ”5.5 millions for 7 points” Anderson?
3 déc. 2022 à 7 h 8
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Why would Lafreniere be worth more than Dach, who just was traded for a 13OA?

And MTL will probably get a 1st+ for Anderson. Why would they trade him for Kakko and moving up 10 spots in the draft?


Dach never performed prior to signing with MTL. Lafreniere is coming off a fantastic playoffs and leads NYR in 5v5 goals during his first 2 seasons.
3 déc. 2022 à 10 h 33
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Slafkovsky stay with CH. It's the only one future first line player in that trade.

Slafkovsky > Lafreniere
Anderson > Kakko
3 déc. 2022 à 12 h 39
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Kappo is a bust, Laf is a career 3rd liner, Slaf has more value than both combined as he is just starting
3 déc. 2022 à 14 h 40
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Dach never performed prior to signing with MTL. Lafreniere is coming off a fantastic playoffs and leads NYR in 5v5 goals during his first 2 seasons.


Patrick Kane said Dach was never given a real chance on the top 6 in Chicago.

Dach have better playoffs stats than Lafreniere, and he's having a better start so far this season.

I'd take Dach over Lafreniere. PPG players like him are difficult to find.
3 déc. 2022 à 16 h 10
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Solid offer for Dubois
3 déc. 2022 à 18 h 26
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Patrick Kane said Dach was never given a real chance on the top 6 in Chicago.

Dach have better playoffs stats than Lafreniere, and he's having a better start so far this season.

I'd take Dach over Lafreniere. PPG players like him are difficult to find.


That’s not true, Dach played 2 full seasons centering Kane + DeBrincat. And most of his points came on the PP.
3 déc. 2022 à 20 h 44
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That’s not true, Dach played 2 full seasons centering Kane + DeBrincat. And most of his points came on the PP.


I mean, that's what Patrick Kane said. You can go argue with him it you want. Here's exactly what he said :

"It's tough coming into the league at 18-19 as the third overall pick. The expectations are high. When you're playing on a fourth line, you don't play as much as you should. He showed a lot of potential but was in a tough role." - Patrick Kane

"We are happy for him. He's played in difficult situations on the third and fourth lines here. Every time he's been used in offensive situations, he's had some success. I loved playing with him; he was able to create space for me" - Patrick Kane.

You still think he played 2 full seasons centering Kane and DeBrincat? I hope you're not a BlackHawks fan, that would be hilarious.
3 déc. 2022 à 21 h 6
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I mean, that's what Patrick Kane said. You can go argue with him it you want. Here's exactly what he said :

"It's tough coming into the league at 18-19 as the third overall pick. The expectations are high. When you're playing on a fourth line, you don't play as much as you should. He showed a lot of potential but was in a tough role." - Patrick Kane

"We are happy for him. He's played in difficult situations on the third and fourth lines here. Every time he's been used in offensive situations, he's had some success. I loved playing with him; he was able to create space for me" - Patrick Kane.

You still think he played 2 full seasons centering Kane and DeBrincat? I hope you're not a BlackHawks fan, that would be hilarious.


He started both of the past 2 seasons with Kane-DeBrincat but got bumped off for Suter and Strome. And honestly both Strome & Suter put up better numbers than him on the top line.

We’re not comparing who’s better right now, at the time of trade, Lafreniere was better than Dach in CHI. Laf scored 19 5v5 goals with Goodrow + Gauthier.
3 déc. 2022 à 21 h 21
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He started both of the past 2 seasons with Kane-DeBrincat but got bumped off for Suter and Strome. And honestly both Strome & Suter put up better numbers than him on the top line.

We’re not comparing who’s better right now, at the time of trade, Lafreniere was better than Dach in CHI. Laf scored 19 5v5 goals with Goodrow + Gauthier.


Well, Kane stated Dach played mostly 3rd and 4th line, so he must have been bumped off top 6 really fast each time.

Both players didn't play alot of PP. Both got little top 6 time, mostly 3rd line time. Both have similar stats on their first 3 seasons (Dach was hurt most of 2nd season)

2023 is a better draft. I think a 1st between 10 and 15 would be enough for Lafreniere. Could be a nice piece for their future rebuild in 3 years.

NYR will be in a cap crunch next summer, especially if they try to sign Kane. Could see them trade Laffy or Kakko if they ask for too much money.
3 déc. 2022 à 21 h 23
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Well, Kane stated Dach played mostly 3rd and 4th line, so he must have been bumped off top 6 really fast each time.

Both players didn't play alot of PP. Both got little top 6 time, mostly 3rd line time. Both have similar stats on their first 3 seasons (Dach was hurt most of 2nd season)

2023 is a better draft. I think a 1st between 10 and 15 would be enough for Lafreniere. Could be a nice piece for their future rebuild in 3 years.

NYR will be in a cap crunch next summer, especially if they try to sign Kane. Could see them trade Laffy or Kakko if they ask for too much money.


For sure a top 15 pick is fair for Laf. But he would be a good pickup unlike what you think.
3 déc. 2022 à 22 h 6
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For sure a top 15 pick is fair for Laf. But he would be a good pickup unlike what you think.


I think he would probably be as good as Dach. Point per game player.

He could even be better if MTL get Dubois and play them together with Slafkovsky.
4 déc. 2022 à 14 h 10
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I think he would probably be as good as Dach. Point per game player.

He could even be better if MTL get Dubois and play them together with Slafkovsky.


Yes but I also think you need to pick up some young defence projects.
 
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