Wow. Devils add a 2027 7th round pick then.

Anderson is not a "cap dump" though, he is a quality NHL top 6 winger, Johnsson is in the AHL cause he isn't an NHL player anymore and Bernier is too old and too injured to stay in the lineup.

Look, I am not saying the Devils should be doing this trade (it's ridiculous to do for them since because of the cost of dumping contracts right now). All I am saying is that the deal is not enough as structured to both dump 2 bad contracts and get a top 6 power forward in return.

Bernier is LTIR, doesn’t cost us anything against the cap.
Johnsson is our 13F/14F.
Both have one year remaining.

Anderson has 5 years at $5.5 million.
If anyone is dumping salary here, it’s the Habs.
(But Devils don’t take cap dumps)

And no way he would play in our top-6. Or even top-9. He would likely battle Nate Bastian for 4RW.

I accounted for that, Kassian had 2 years left at .2 Mil cheaper but was and still is an NHL player, even still I dropped the 3rd for the extra year but since Johnsson is literally not an NHL player anymore you could add it back or even rightfully change the 2nd to a 1st since he will just be sent to the AHL again. Mrazek is 30 and Bernier is 34 and both have a horrid injury history with similar number of games played over the last 2 seasons, that is a very good comp for Bernier. Sure the Devils would get a 2nd back in a straight cap dump but it still costs a 1st to dump him. In context to the Anderson deal though take the 3rd out of my previous statement if you want to balance it, that means the original offer is still a 1st short though.

Anderson (50% retained) for a couple of mid-picks. No need to include Bernier and Johnsson.

Yeah everyone describing a guy with 1 career 0.5 ppg season as top 6 is insane

Do you think the Habs overpaid for Dach? he had 9 goals and 26 points in 70 games last season and cost a 1st (13th) + 3rd, Anderson is on pace for 19 goals and 27 points this season (much better production than Dach last year. Don't like that comp how about Lehkonen then, Montreal got an A RHD prospect (whose value was a late 1st at the time) + a 2nd for him and he had 13 goals and 29 points at the time of the trade.

Still not getting it done, it will cost a 1st and another small piece for Anderson much like we got for Chiarot. Montreal has no incentive to move him otherwise. You can also forget about retention LMAO for 4 more years after this one that would cost you at least 2 more 1sts.

Burying Johnsson costs $2.275 mil over the full season ($1.125 less than his full cap hit). Given that cap hits are accrued on a daily basis, and that we're over a quarter of the way through the season so far, you'd actually only be saving them 75% of that ($1.6875) if you made that deal today. From a pure $ value, Johnsson is only owed $750 k this year, so when it comes to that, again, you'd be saving the Devs about $550k.

You're comparing apples to submarines.

Anderson is not a "cap dump" though, he is a quality NHL top 6 winger, Johnsson is in the AHL cause he isn't an NHL player anymore and Bernier is too old and too injured to stay in the lineup.

Not exactly true, sure actual salary is not that significant but in cap hit it is like adding a Bratt, RNH, Burakovsky or J.T. Miller at the TDL. Try telling me that that is not worth it for the Devils

Dach was a #3 ovr pick coming off an ELC . Lehkonen was at .5 PPG and was cost controlled. . Barron was a B+ prospect, not an A prospect

Josh anderson hasn’t even hit .5 PPG in 4 years. His contract also sucks

Dach isn't even 22 years old yet - it was a big swing to take, but based on aging curves you have to assume there was still some upside in him. Anderson is turning 29 this year and has 4 years left - you're basically trading for what will be the beginning of his decline years.

Lehkonen was closer in age but is still a year younger than Anderson, and after retention cost about 25% as much as Anderson's cap hit. Hell, even after his "big" extension his AAV is still $1M less than Anderson's, and he's outproducing him by a significant margin (7-11-18 in 21 GP this year.)

Anderson is not worth a 1st. And if New Jersey has to pay *another* 1st to make the cap space to acquire a guy who would generously be their 11th best forward, I just don't see the value making sense for them - why wouldn't they just spend a lesser package to get a middle-6 upgrade that they can fit under their current cap?

My brother in Christ, how are they going possibly going to be able to trade for a high quality player when you've moved their next 2 1st round picks for a low quality player?

I literally said that the deal doesn't make sense for the Devils due to the cost to dump contracts right now. I get that you don't like Anderson and think he is overpaid but 20 goal scorers don't come cheap and you aren't going to sign a player as unique as Anderson for less than 3.5 mil as NHLfan10506 seems to think LMAO.

I also do not see why the Devil's would be looking to make such significant roster moves given their place in the standings, I am only commenting on the structure of the package and the value Montreal would be looking for for this type of deal.

I was saying that if they didn't make the Anderson move but still chose to dump Johnsson the cap savings was enough to get such a player that is why paying a 1st is the cost to dump him and the Devil's might be interested in such a move. Sorry for the confusion there, like I said though the Anderson trade to Jersey makes no sense given their place in the standings. Why mess with a team built so well when it is finally starting to pay off.

I don't know about that, Kassian makes 3.2 mil for 2 more years and it cost the Oilers a 1st (29th pick in 2022)+ 2nd + 3rd to dump his contract but they got the 32nd pick in return. So the 1st's cancel each other out then 2 years at 3.2 costs a 2nd + 3rd, Johnsson makes 3.4 for 1 year so a 2nd covers the cost to dump his contract. Now for Bernier, 4.125 Mil for 1 year is easily a 1st based on Mrazek, so far just the cost of dumping Johnsson and Bernier is 1st + 2nd based off of recent history. Adding Anderson is going to cost much more than the difference between moving from about 50-60th to 20-30, which is about a 2nd (in 2021 the Preds moved from 40th to 27 and it cost them the 50th pick). Therefore this deal is a bit light on value for Montreal, like a 2nd + 3rd (or prospect) short.

Johnsson = 2nd based on Kassian's dump
Bernier = 1st based on Mrazek dump
Anderson is a 1st + 3rd (or prospect)

Why would the Devils dump Bernier when he's likely just gonna be on LTIR for the rest of the year?
Why would the Devils dump Johnsson when his buried cap hit doesn't adversely affect the Devils cap situation?

But most importantly, why would the Devils trade a 1st + 3rd (or prospect) for Josh Anderson when he wouldn't crack the Devils lineup?
Even with Palat and Bastian out injured, please tell me which forward in the Devils does Anderson beat out for a roster spot?

Toronto moved 2 full seasons of Mrazek by moving down like 13 spots in the draft. *IF* the Devs tried to dump Johnsson, it'd be a 3rd rounder max.

Haven’t you heard the rumor? Tony Soprano on his podcast said: Kent wants Johnsson. Badly. Maybe they wouldn’t give up Suzuki or Dach for him, but they have guys like Caufield, Slafkovsky on their roster. And Kent wants Johnson. Badly.

Saw a similar rumour on thehockeywriters.com and nhltraderumors.net

i'd much rather try for Tom Wilson than Anderson