CGY would have to add a 1st for Anderson value and another 1st to dump Mangiapane.

i did say it was a foundation for a trade, so no not a troll or clueless. just asking for rational advice for what else may be needed and by which team

Canucks decline easily. If we trade Boeser, it isn't for another overpaid forward. We are likely headed for a rebuild

Mangiapane > Anderson though. And Anderson has a worse contract

Not only Anderson is better than Mangiapane, but he would be CGY first line RW.

He will be traded for a 1st or something of equal value.

How exactly is Anderson better than Mangiapane? Mangiapane has outproduced him each of the last 4 seasons, and is better defensively

Anderson may be traded for a 1st+, and whatever GM makes that trade for him probably deserves to be fired, but he’s not better than Mangiapane, and has an awful contract. In all honesty Montreal should take whatever they can get for him so they get out of his awful contract

There is legit no way you think Anderson is better… this is why nobody takes people like you seriously

These must be jokes right?

You don't think Anderson will be traded for a 1st?

It think it’s more that if you think Mangiapane costs a 1st to dump then Anderson costs multiple 1sts to dump

Habs have absolutely no use for another winger, nothing to do with boeser value

What he said. Anderson might get a first by some desperate gm that likes his style of play. I don't think he's worth a first at all. I wouldn't want him on my team at all, add in his contract and that would be even less. I would take Mangiapane over Anderson all day every day, even with his slow start.

That's understandable then.

That comment will look awful when he's traded for a 1st or more.

I was thinking the same thing and Mangiapane is younger as well

What do you think Anderson will be traded for? And what would Calgary get for Mangiapane?

Just because Mangiapane is struggling a bit, doesn't mean he has a bad contract

A struggling Mangiapane is still producing more than Anderson 😂

He may get traded for a 1st+, but he’s not close to being better than Mangiapane. Please explain what makes Anderson better

This is a revenge joke right? Mangiapane scored 35 goals last season (27 at ES+SH), which is more than Anderson had points




You don't want to see Josh Anderson's card in comparison

Mangiapane is immensely more useful than Anderson, is younger and has a better contract

Advanced stats are good for baseball, but it doesn't take into consideration any physical plays or attributes a player has. Pretty sure we could find bad players with good WAR.

Those stats don't show how physical or fast Josh Anderson is, or how many good hits or forechecks he does in a game. He's always first on the puck in a race.

Didn't you see the 2 breakaways he got yesterday against CGY? He's faster than any of their players. Markstrom was so scared he had to hit him. We know what happen after.

In that game, CGY showed how slow and soft they are. Even Sutter said Monahan had so much space on the first goal. And Monahan is a slow player.

Calgary would be a much better team with Anderson instead of Mangiapane.

You can be as physical and fast as you want, but if you can't be effective offensively or defensively, then you aren't a good player. Anderson doesn't produce. Getting paid 5.5 million to not produce is terrible. By your logic, Mikheyev is the best player in the league. He can beat McDavid in a footrace

Yes advanced stats are going to be more telling for baseball since it's not continuous action involving many players in small spaces like hockey but disagree with the rest

- physical attributes should actually help a player to maintain or regain possession and in the end outshot and outchance the opposition

- you are not going to find a lot bad players with good WAR. Try to find 1 to begin

- I don't focus on WAR much. I look at EV Off and EV Def while looking at QoC (competition) and QoT (teammates). I might also look at special units depending on the context of my research

- Anderson is fast and physical which is great but he sucks at controlling the puck and passing the puck which makes him a bottom-6 forward and this has resulted in 3rd line numbers for pretty much all his career. People are saying he is just NOT WORTH the 5.5 AAV he has. Any GM giving valuable pieces for that contract is a dinosaur that should be nowhere near the management of a half a billion/billion business.


Remember this is what you said :

CGY would have to add a 1st for Anderson value and another 1st to dump Mangiapane.


Sorry but I doubt we could find ONE non-Habs fan to agree with this. This is VERY FAR from being realistic

Lehkonen and Danault had a very good WAR while in MTL, but had 3rd line point production. I guess they qualify as bad players with good WAR?

MTL want a 1st for Anderson, and want nothing to do with Mangiapane. If they were to take a 5.8M player they don't really want, they're gonna ask for at least a 1st. Monahan's trade proved that. That's what i meant.

Danault is one of the best 2-way centers in the league and has been for a while. He finished 7, 6, 6, 8 for the Selke in the last 4 years

His offense is a bit underrated. Look at his card, it reflects that

Only his special teams work and goal scoring ability brought his WAR down



ELITE defensively, good offensively and he does all that against Elite competition...

Lehkonen is another underrated forward, his offense improved over the years, his defense game was already elite.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXkRDuRWIAETOD6?format=jpg&name=large

That being said, I'm not really sure what you are trying to say. Maybe you're just not very familiar with advanced stats




I have absolutely no idea what makes you think Mangiapane is some kind of cap dump like Monahan was... Again, he scored 35 goals last season while being a premium defensive forward

They'd be BAT**** crazy to not trade Anderson for Mangiapane. But don't worry, that'll never be on the table

Younger, better, more productive, much better defensively, LESS term too so less risky

AINEC

I didn't do it before but I'll show you Anderson card then... He is just not very good. The average hockey fan gets impressed by the skating ability and the physical presence but in the end, results matter :