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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #6: No More Summer of Dorion

4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 40
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Because everyone and their mother will shove down your throat someone who they call underrated


He's not underrated. He's been an elite young player almost since his debut.
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4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 45
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Quoting: oilersguy
why is everyone on this site obsessed with Jason Robertson now?


I think most fans find it easier or more enjoyable to root for the underdog. And in the Hart race, it's McDavid as Goliath. Matthews got a lot of love last season en route to the Hart. Imagine how much love he'd have gotten if he didn't play for the Leafs. Also, some of us have been pumping Robertson since day 1 and they probably feel vindicated.
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4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 48
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So I think its fair to say at the TDL the big 5 are

Toews
Kane
Meier
Chycrun
Kuzmenko (A week ago not top 10 but man with the season hes having teams are gonna call and want this guy)
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4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 49
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Quoting: aadoyle
So I think its fair to say at the TDL the big 5 are

Toews
Kane
Meier
Chycrun
Kuzmenko (A week ago not top 10 but man with the season hes having teams are gonna call and want this guy)


How is kuzy more than horvat
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4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 49
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Quoting: aadoyle
So I think its fair to say at the TDL the big 5 are

Toews
Kane
Meier
Chycrun
Kuzmenko (A week ago not top 10 but man with the season hes having teams are gonna call and want this guy)


I prob put Horvat instead of Toews or Kuzmenko
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4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 50
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Price keeps going up for Dylan Cozens. 24 pts in 25 games. Him and Jack Quinn have the potential to be an elite duo. Quinn has 5 goals in his last 6 games


Cozens just won me my week in fantasy tonight. 3A and 6 SOG. This kid is a stud. A natural playmaker with great creativity.
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4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 50
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Quoting: aadoyle
So I think its fair to say at the TDL the big 5 are

Toews
Kane
Meier
Chycrun
Kuzmenko (A week ago not top 10 but man with the season hes having teams are gonna call and want this guy)


Kuzmenko is the 3rd biggest trade target on his team
4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 51
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
I prob put Horvat instead of Toews or Kuzmenko


Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
How is kuzy more than horvat


I pondered him but apparently the reason Boeser has been allowed to look elsewhere is they want to move him then extend Horvat. So im waiting for that front

Its the same with O'Rielly in the sense I want to wait as who knows Blues could go on a 10 game WS and think about adding

Meanwhile Kuzmenko is making 950k and has 21 points in 24 games including 11 goals

Like for cap strapped playoff teams hes a goldmine of opportunity

Tampa, Carolina, Toronto, Vegas etc all will be eyeing him
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4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 52
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Honesty, I'm already getting tired of these dumb eddy and mono to oilers trade proposals
They don't want or need either, and in all of the proposals I've seen, habs are getting way too much in return.
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4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 53
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Quoting: oilersguy
Kuzmenko is the 3rd biggest trade target on his team


Hahaha. Fire Sale.
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4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 53
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Quoting: oilersguy
Kuzmenko is the 3rd biggest trade target on his team

With that little cap hit. Imo he is number one. And with his production too.
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4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 54
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I find it funny how some people were sleeping the Sabres 1 2 Center combo and now Thompson and Cozens both look amazing. Thompson especially is just insane. Hes like a forward version of Tyler Myers if Myers were good.
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4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 54
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Holy Sh*t, you are so frustrating
do you know the difference between 1st + 3rd OR bourgault. Meaning 1st and 3rd for Monohan or, Bourgault for Monahan.
I've said this twice already


You didn't actually clarify. Knowing your history of obscure takes, I was thinking you meant a third round pick or Bourgault packaged with the first round pick. You have said dumber things though
4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 55
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Quoting: Juiceman
You didn't actually clarify. Knowing your history of obscure takes, I was thinking you meant a third round pick or Bourgault packaged with the first round pick. You have said dumber things though


At least I havent said Tyler Myers is worth a 1st and Tyler motte is worth a 2nd
4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 55
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I think Timo Meier is the top forward potentially available at the TDL. He seems to be built for the postseason.
4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 55
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Quoting: oilersguy
Kuzmenko is the 3rd biggest trade target on his team


Yep and he should

Hes making 950k and has 21 points in 24 games. A team like Tampa, Vegas, or any other cap strapped team will be going hey lets make a deal as at 50% ret he costs a team 475k that aint bad for a most likely 20+ goal scorer

And with Horvat potentially unavailable I think Kuzmeko trumps Boeser mainly for the reason above

Oilers would be smart to go after him
4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 56
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
I find it funny how some people were sleeping the Sabres 1 2 Center combo and now Thompson and Cozens both look amazing. Thompson especially is just insane. Hes like a forward version of Tyler Myers if Myers were good.


Hate to say it but Tyler Myers has more awards at the NHL level than Tage flushed cheeks
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4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 56
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
At least I havent said Tyler Myers is worth a 1st and Tyler motte is worth a 2nd


You can waste your time trying to find when I said Myers is worth a first round pick but you won't find it because I never said that.
4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 57
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
I find it funny how some people were sleeping the Sabres 1 2 Center combo and now Thompson and Cozens both look amazing. Thompson especially is just insane. Hes like a forward version of Tyler Myers if Myers were good.


what do you mean if? lol
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4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 57
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Quoting: capsfan2121
With that little cap hit. Imo he is number one. And with his production too.


I personally Think vancouver will attempt to keep Kuz and Trade Horvat + Garland. Just feels like that teams needs some fresh energ. Kuz is still new enough to where he can be a core peice for them IMO. I also dont just see them full on Fireselling everyone, I think their goal is still be a competive team With Petey + Hughes
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4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 57
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Quoting: Juiceman
You can waste your time trying to find when I said Myers is worth a first round pick but you won't find it because I never said that.


Unlike you, I dont have the time to search for it anway, but, ive recalled you may have said that
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4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 57
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Quoting: oilersguy
Kuzmenko is the 3rd biggest trade target on his team


I'd say he is #2.
My list of who should be traded is:
1. Horvat
2. Kuzmenko
3. Schenn
4. Miller
5. Pearson
6. Myers
7. Garland
8. Boeser
9. Hoglander
10. Demko
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4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 58
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
I personally Think vancouver will attempt to keep Kuz and Trade Horvat + Garland. Just feels like that teams needs some fresh energ. Kuz is still new enough to where he can be a core peice for them IMO. I also dont just see them full on Fireselling everyone, I think their goal is still be a competive team With Petey + Hughes


Nah I think the reason Boeser has been made available is to free space to sign Horvat to a Hintz type deal. From there Van will then trade Kuzmenko for a nice package from Tampa or VGK and then maybe move Garland for a Dman

Van will then build around Horvat, Petterson, Miller
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4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 58
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
I personally Think vancouver will attempt to keep Kuz and Trade Horvat + Garland. Just feels like that teams needs some fresh energ. Kuz is still new enough to where he can be a core peice for them IMO. I also dont just see them full on Fireselling everyone, I think their goal is still be a competive team With Petey + Hughes


Canucks cannot afford to keep Kuzmenko and Horvat unless they trade 2 big pieces which is probably what they will try to do unfortunately. That would mean the Canucks keep 2 players while losing 2 players meaning that they will be even worse next year. Doesn't make too much sense. Management has got to realize we need to rebuild. Love Kuzmenko but the assets he could return would be too good to pass up. He doesn't fit the rebuild timeline
4 déc. 2022 à 22 h 59
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easily is a very very strong word


Nope. He'll EASILY get a 1st or we'll keep him.
 
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