A first and third or Bourgault for Monahan? That is arguably more than what Andrew Copp and Claude Giroux got. Monahan just got dumped for a first round pick, can't expect him to be that valuable. A first and top prospect will go for guys like Kane and Horvat. Not guys like Monahan.

Edit: Just curious to what you think Bo Horvat is worth. He has more goals than Monahan has points this season

Habs fans are certainly something...

One guy is arguing that Josh Anderson is good and that advanced stats "don't consider Anderson's strengths". Proceeds to say that advanced stats aren't good for hockey because they don't follow their narrative

Did you read it wrong? It's a 1st + 3rd OR Bourgault. First, Monohan has been playing better than copp was last year, plus copp got a 1st and a 2nd, like dude, that's more than 1st and 3rd or Bourgault.
On Giroux, he forced Philly to send him to Florida, thus they didn't have much leverage to ask for much, if he didn't have a NTC, I would've expected he could've fetched more than double than what he got.
Now, the notion that Monohan got dumped with a 1st, therefore making him not worth much is totally false. He got dumped w/ that because
A. They were in a tight cap situation, and needed Kadri, before he signed elsewhere
B. He was injured so he wasn't playing well.
Imo he might only have costed a 2nd or 3rd and 4th to dump if it wasn't such a dire situation
Based on that clueless part of the comment, I'd assume you haven't watched monohan this year, nor have checked his stats, as, if you look at either and especially both, you'd realize he is playing like a 1B center this year. He's been amazing defensively too.
Once again I'm not saying 1st and Bourgault, I am saying one or the other, and with how he's playing with 50 % retention, no doubt he's worth that.

I wouldn't say Bourgault is entirely expendable, he is a RW and when JP or Yamo is traded he could fit in for them on the right side, but yes he is defiantly the Oilers biggest trade asset

Price keeps going up for Dylan Cozens. 24 pts in 25 games. Him and Jack Quinn have the potential to be an elite duo. Quinn has 5 goals in his last 6 games

One situation has nothing to do with the other. He's a 50+ PT Center on an expiring deal who has leadership qualities. He will easily get a 1st + if he were to get traded.

easily is a very very strong word

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So what would you value a far superior player like Bo Horvat who is having a career year and has more goals than Monahan has points?

He's not a natural center ?

Probably like 1st + Bourgault + something else

every minute he has spent in the AHL has been at RW and the Oilers don't need to him to be a center

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/656507?post_id=3711272

Habs fans at their finest

So you value Monahan at 1st + Bourgault and value Horvat as 1st + Bourgault +something else. You seriously think the difference between Horvat and Monahan is just a third minor piece??? Yikes

Any rental is basically capped out at a specific market price. Monahan will only get a first if there is a market, which means he has to be consistent + Stay healthy which he has struggled to do in past years. A safe bet IMO is a 2nd + =or Smaller asset.

Players like Kane, Horvat typically go for bargains at the deadline because Teams arent willing to spend a fair amount of assets at the deadline for a Rental. If the Far superior players value is already low at the deadline that makes Monahans value lower.

I seriously doubt that...but we'll see.

He didn't say Monahan = Bourgault + 1st.

He said Monahan = Bourgault or a 1st.

I disagree with both notions personally.

I'm starting to believe that Bowness hockey potentially ate up to 25-35 points from our top line guys last year. Hintz could've been a 90 point guy already last year, Pavelski a 100 point guy and Robo at 110. I don't think they've taken that many steps forward, but rather they're no longer shackled in any way.

He said 1st + 3rd or Bourgault type package. I don't know if the or means remove the first, but either way, the difference between Monahan and Horvat is astronomically larger than that

I think he meant to remove the first. But imo this is a classic example of a Habs fan overvaluation. GMs league wide know under what circumstances Monahan went to Habs, they surely aren't suddenly forgetting it all by the deadline and spending like crazy for him.

A player like him with a tad concerning history in injuries, as well as an outcast from a perceiced top contender, is likely gonna be traded in a deal at the deadline that has a myriad of conditional picks in it. Straight 1st rounder? No, I don't see it. Who knows. I didn't see that happen with Chiarot but it's hard to predict the inept.

Common W Take

I find it kinda funny that well Bouragult name keeps coming up on here he score a goal in the AHL, now has 10 points in 18 games

Holy Sh*t, you are so frustrating
do you know the difference between 1st + 3rd OR bourgault. Meaning 1st and 3rd for Monohan or, Bourgault for Monahan.
I've said this twice already

lol, just scored another one