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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #6: No More Summer of Dorion

4 déc. 2022 à 13 h 23
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Idk man.
Given how little really good wingers like Pacioretty and Björkstrand went for I think Boeser could be gotten very cheaply if made available.
Canucks would do very well to get someone like Bourque or Harley for Boeser at this point in time.


Difference is that CBJ and VGK needed the cap space, I don’t think Van needs it right now
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4 déc. 2022 à 13 h 27
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Maybe, just maybe it’s because it requires you to move a razor sharp blade in a position where it could severely hurt someone else


Man I don’t think anybody is going to be soccer kicking it into the net.
4 déc. 2022 à 13 h 56
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Honestly through looking at all the teams Nashville could be Van's best partner for Boeser

As Fabbro fits what Vancouver is looking for rn.
4 déc. 2022 à 14 h 11
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Fitzgerald's best move this offseason wasn't trading for John Marino.
It was trading for Vitek (though Schmid has been great in his 5 games also).

Edit: Also, seems like Dubas knocked it out of the park by picking Samsonov up.


And Vitek and Samsonov > Kuemper

(example #563 goalies are voodoo)
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4 déc. 2022 à 14 h 20
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Man I don’t think anybody is going to be soccer kicking it into the net.


It doesn't take a soccer kick for a skate blade to cause damage. Allowing and encouraging players to use their feet to score goals is moronic and reckless. Unnecessarily puts players at risk of severe bodily harm.
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4 déc. 2022 à 15 h 1
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https://montrealhockeynow.com/2022/12/04/canadiens-reportedly-have-their-eye-on-oilers-prospect/
I am just absolutely baffled that Habs media seriously think that they will get anything higher then a 2nd for Monahan let alone Bourgault
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4 déc. 2022 à 15 h 2
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It doesn't take a soccer kick for a skate blade to cause damage. Allowing and encouraging players to use their feet to score goals is moronic and reckless. Unnecessarily puts players at risk of severe bodily harm.


Ban hockey sticks then. Look at all the high sticks that happen where people get cut tears of joy . Disallow slap shots. You could decapitate somebodu with that. Most kicking motion goals occur where the player slides the puck in the net with their skate not even leaving the ice...
4 déc. 2022 à 17 h 0
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I feel tension in that locker room between those 2 is gonna lead to something
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4 déc. 2022 à 17 h 7
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The MVP of the league is leading DAL to a 4G comeback.
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4 déc. 2022 à 17 h 10
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I feel tension in that locker room between those 2 is gonna lead to something


I can't see STL making a coaching change during the season, tbh. Berube has too much good will remaining from the Cup. But, if they miss the playoffs there will probably be big changes.
4 déc. 2022 à 17 h 12
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I can't see STL making a coaching change during the season, tbh. Berube has too much good will remaining from the Cup. But, if they miss the playoffs there will probably be big changes.


You never know. Its not been smooth and they cant trade Binnington. And if they start calling eachother out its gonna cause a toxic atmosphere.

Coach is the easiest choice rn as the issue with problem players ALL HAVE NTC
4 déc. 2022 à 17 h 18
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You never know. Its not been smooth and they cant trade Binnington. And if they start calling eachother out its gonna cause a toxic atmosphere.

Coach is the easiest choice rn as the issue with problem players ALL HAVE NTC


I look at their roster and I see a playoff team. Not a great team, but a solid group with a few weaknesses. They need some of their highly paid vets to step it up a notch. Goaltending has been terrible, but their team defense has been a total disaster. You allow Kasperi Kapanen to score a hat trick and somethings seriously wrong.
4 déc. 2022 à 17 h 27
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The MVP of the league is leading DAL to a 4G comeback.


There it is. Roope hatty.
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4 déc. 2022 à 17 h 30
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https://montrealhockeynow.com/2022/12/04/canadiens-reportedly-have-their-eye-on-oilers-prospect/
I am just absolutely baffled that Habs media seriously think that they will get anything higher then a 2nd for Monahan let only Bourgault


Monahan has actually been damn good, Monahan 50% retained at the TDL could fetch us some decent assets, he’s been so good apparently we might resign him when the original plan was to let him go/trade him

Edit: Also that’s a fan site so not exactly a trustworthy site
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4 déc. 2022 à 17 h 33
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https://montrealhockeynow.com/2022/12/04/canadiens-reportedly-have-their-eye-on-oilers-prospect/
I am just absolutely baffled that Habs media seriously think that they will get anything higher then a 2nd for Monahan let only Bourgault


i mean it depends on how monahan does up until the TDL... with his current pace i have my doubts that he's worth more than a second, but kent hughes made some magic last year with trades (examples in question are [Chiarot for 2023 1st, Guindon, Smilanic] and [Toffoli for Mesar, Heineman, 5th] trades) so you never know
4 déc. 2022 à 17 h 45
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i mean it depends on how monahan does up until the TDL... with his current pace i have my doubts that he's worth more than a second, but kent hughes made some magic last year with trades (examples in question are [Chiarot for 2023 1st, Guindon, Smilanic] and [Toffoli for Mesar, Heineman, 5th] trades) so you never know


2 and 3rd is max IMO, morely bc his contract even 50% Retained isnt neccesarily a bargain. Possible a first if MTL pays for double retention
4 déc. 2022 à 18 h 10
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2 and 3rd is max IMO, morely bc his contract even 50% Retained isnt neccesarily a bargain. Possible a first if MTL pays for double retention


I mean, Monahan has 16 points in 24 games and has been one of our best players, paying him like 3.8 ( even less due to the fact it’d be trade deadline salary and most of his contract would be paid ) is a bargain for someone who can fill 2c ( most likely 3c to get a deep Center core )
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4 déc. 2022 à 19 h 45
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Ban hockey sticks then. Look at all the high sticks that happen where people get cut tears of joy . Disallow slap shots. You could decapitate somebodu with that. Most kicking motion goals occur where the player slides the puck in the net with their skate not even leaving the ice...


Oh my god...
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4 déc. 2022 à 19 h 47
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Oh my god...


Literally what is the difference between a player kicking the puck into the net and a player kicking in open ice or on the boards. When players lose their stick, they kick it all the time. Why isn't that illegal?
4 déc. 2022 à 20 h 36
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The MVP of the league is leading DAL to a 4G comeback.


why is everyone on this site obsessed with Jason Robertson now?
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4 déc. 2022 à 20 h 54
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why is everyone on this site obsessed with Jason Robertson now?


He’s an unbelievable player, might be the best winger in the league at this point. But I mean McDavid is obviously better.
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4 déc. 2022 à 20 h 55
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why is everyone on this site obsessed with Jason Robertson now?


Because everyone and their mother will shove down your throat someone who they call underrated
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4 déc. 2022 à 20 h 57
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why is everyone on this site obsessed with Jason Robertson now?


Because he is ELITE. If I had to choose any winger in the NHL to be on my team, it would be Robertson
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4 déc. 2022 à 21 h 0
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Monahan has actually been damn good, Monahan 50% retained at the TDL could fetch us some decent assets, he’s been so good apparently we might resign him when the original plan was to let him go/trade him

Edit: Also that’s a fan site so not exactly a trustworthy site


it is just that a Monahan type player isn't the biggest need for the Oilers, who are very set at C and have bigger needs then wingers, I would hope if the Oilers traded a asset as big as Bourgault it would be in a package for at least a really good second pair caliber dman because fixing our atrocious defense should be the #1 priority for this team

Also: Holland seems like he really does like trading 1sts or top prospects, he rather trade every 2nd rounder he can get his hands on
4 déc. 2022 à 21 h 12
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it is just that a Monahan type player isn't the biggest need for the Oilers, who are very set at C and have bigger needs then wingers, I would hope if the Oilers traded a asset as big as Bourgault it would be in a package for at least a really second pair caliber dman because fixing our atrocious defense should be the #1 priority for this team

Also: Holland seems like he really does like trading 1sts or top prospects, he rather trade every 2nd rounder he can get his hands on


I agree.
Monohan isn't a real need for Edmonton, teams like Colorado, Carolina, and Toronto would need him more.
Although, he can probably fetch something like a 1st + 3rd or Bourgault type of package with the way he's playing.
As for the Oilers, with McDavid, Draisaitl, Holloway etc, Bourgault is expendable, so, I can see them moving him for someone, maybe something like him + kulak + + for someone like Chychrun
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