No chance Columbus pays more for hanifin than Calgary pays for chychrun

We can discuss a Trade for Hanifin in the off-season. That 1st Round Pick and LD Prospect are attractive though

Flames won’t pay that much for Chychrun

If the Jackets are trading 2 top 10 picks it is for a #1C. Regardless of value, this trade makes zero sense for a rebuilding team.

Columbus isn’t making that trade unless the 1st is playoff protected and Mateychuk is removed. Rebuilding teams don’t pay that kind of price for players.

You guys know Hanifin is only 25? and is Columbus doing a full tear down? Cause it seems like they just signed two UFA's to big deals this last offseason

Calgary is giving up way more value for Chychrun here, not sure what you mean

Not even close, kylington a 4dman at best, dube and bjugstad kind of a wash I'd prefer bjugstad, coronato good prospect but not signed could pull a fox on AZ, Calgary 1st going to be late. Mateychuk elite dman prospect. Columbus 1st unsure where it would finish, nyquist decent 2nd line winger and ruzicka is just a filler. Chychrun miles better than hanafin and signed longer. I have no bias in this trade being a rangers fan but I think cbj is paying more for hanafin than Calgary is for chychrun.

Other than Gaudreau who else did they sign? Laine was a RFA and Gudbranson was massively overpaid that no other team would have given him that contract.

Yes, before the Gaudreau signing they were basically going full rebuild with the Jones trade. The other reason I wouldn’t give up that much is the fact that Columbus is currently sitting 3rd worst in the league above only Chicago and Anaheim. Maybe if next season is going better they make this type of move for Hanifin with an extension, but not unless there’s a major turn around next season.

You are significantly under valuing every Calgary player in your post

Dube (a 24 yr old RFA on an upward trajectory) & Bjugstad (a 30 year old Pending UFA at close to league minimum who's best years are far behind him) a wash!? That's just straight up ridiculous

Bjugstad 20 game 9 points, center whis decent on facoffs, 6'6", 900k contract, +6 if you wanna use +/-

Dube 22 games 9 points, winger meaning less value, 5'11", 2.3m overpayment off a contract, -1

You're right this is ridiculous Bjugstad is just better. I take back what I say about it being a wash

2.3 is not an overpay for Dube's production. And we're talking overall value not just who would you prefer today. You honestly think that Bjustad holds more value than Dube, given their ages and production over the last few years?

Saying Ruzicka is filler really makes me question any of your input. He's a giant with great skating and good hands and is on a great trajectory right now and playing as a productive top 6 winger at 23.
Both 1sts are uncertain so they are a wash. And yes Kylington is a young top 4 puck moving D with great skating that can score goals, that holds good value. Coronato and Mateychuk are a both good prospects so thats a wash. Nyquist has negative value right now. He is not a good second line winger on any contending team? 5.5 on an expiring contract for his level of production and at his age is not good.

Stop it, you're embarrassing yourself

You obviously don't know these players or what you're talking about. On any other Team than ARI, Bjugstad is a 4th Liner/Healthy Scratch

Ruzicka > Bjugstad and Dube >> Bjugstad Both Flames Players are Young and on the Rise and Bjugstad has been on the decline for years

Your blatant bias because you're a flames fan makes me question any of your input. Easiest way to fix it, CBJ trades mateychuk nyquist and a 1st for chychrun, AZ flips nyquist with retention to a contender for a pick probably late second or 3rd.

Stop it, you're embarrassing yourself with the blatant bias

Your trying to argue that 33 year old Nyquist making 5.5 on one of the worst teams in the league and Nick Bjustad (look at his production over last few years) hold more value than Dube (24), Kylington (top 4 25 year old D) and Ruzicka (23).

You seriously think Kylington + Dube + Ruzicka have less value then Nyquist + Bjustad?

-Columbus isn't gonna do this. They've only got about $12M in cap space available next season and only 11(!) players with a contract for next season. Hanifin eats up basically 40% of their cap space next year and would need a new contract next summer - I think that there are gonna be better ways to use their cap space than that, and an LD on an ELC like Mateychuk is going to be more valuable to them than a pending UFA like Hanifin next season.

-I just don't see the value here for Arizona. Dube is a middle-6 guy without a ton of upside who's only got 2 years before UFA; Kylington is a year older than Chychrun, still has no timetable for return this year and will be a pending UFA next year - so both these roster players are really not super attractive assets for a team that's deep in a rebuild. Speaking of that, Coronato would be a nice asset but as said upthread he has the Adam Fox/Jack McBain option of just not signing with Arizona (as opposed to a prospect like Connor Zary or Jakub Pelletier that's already under contract.) I just see this package being beaten by another team that wants Chychrun - a 1st/young roster player with more control/strong prospect package blows this out of the water.

Well now you're just trying to put words in my mouth. Maybe try reading it the way this person put it



An islander and rangers fan agreeing??? That's how messed up these trades are

You can get a #2 LD for a lot less than 2 top 10 picks. Like I said, I am not even evaluating the value of the trade. The fit just makes zero sense for our needs. Its a #1C or nothing.