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Whats the price

Créé par: jazzhandz321
Date de création initiale: 29 nov. 2022
Publié: 29 nov. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
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  1. Henrique, Adam (2 912 500 $ retained)
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    2382 500 000 $82 405 413 $212 500 $0 $94 587 $
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    Bunting, Michael
    950 000 $
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    Matthews, Auston
    11 640 250 $
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    Nylander, William
    6 962 366 $
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    UFA - 2
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    Järnkrok, Calle
    2 100 000 $
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    UFA - 4
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    Tavares, John
    11 000 000 $
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    Marner, Mitchell
    10 903 000 $
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    Kerfoot, Alexander
    3 500 000 $
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    Henrique, Adam
    2 912 500 $
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    Engvall, Pierre
    2 250 000 $
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    Aston-Reese, Zach
    840 630 $
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    Kämpf, David
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    Malgin, Denis
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    Rielly, Morgan
    7 500 000 $
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    Holl, Justin
    2 000 000 $
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    Murray, Matt
    4 687 500 $
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    UFA - 2
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    Sandin, Rasmus
    1 400 000 $
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    Liljegren, Timothy
    1 400 000 $
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    Källgren, Erik
    750 000 $
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    Giordano, Mark
    800 000 $
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    Brodie, TJ
    5 000 000 $
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    UFA - 2
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    Samsonov, Ilya
    1 800 000 $
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    RFA - 1
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    Robertson, Nicholas
    796 667 $
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    Muzzin, Jake
    5 625 000 $
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    UFA - 2
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    Benn, Jordie
    750 000 $
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    29 nov. 2022 à 18 h 13
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    I wouldn’t do it unless there was at least a 2023 1st coming back
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    29 nov. 2022 à 18 h 18
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    Quoting: GeneralLandro
    I wouldn’t do it unless there was at least a 2023 1st coming back


    Yeah I would assume so as well. I think the leafs do it if it's 2 2nds + a prospect. Henrique would be a killer 3C for us and having him for two playoff rounds would be special for sure.
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    29 nov. 2022 à 18 h 19
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    I think something along the lines of a first-round draft pick and a decent prospect or your 2024 second plus a better prospect, like Topi Niemela.
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    29 nov. 2022 à 18 h 21
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    For 50% retention for the remainder of this season, and all of next season, It's going to look something like a 23 1st, a 2nd/3rd piece, a mid/late pick (probably a 5th), and we can take some cap back as long as its on an expiring deal.

    I would recommend playing him at 2LW though, he is on pace for his usual 45 point season with the Ducks, with a better supporting cast, the guy could seriously take off production wise, of course you could swap him 2LW and 3C as needed for chemistry/need
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    29 nov. 2022 à 18 h 32
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    I think something along the lines of a first-round draft pick and a decent prospect or your 2024 second plus a better prospect, like Topi Niemela.


    I think a first and a guy like Abruzzese or Villeneuve would be more palatable for Leafs fans
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    29 nov. 2022 à 18 h 39
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    Quoting: GiggywithGibby
    For 50% retention for the remainder of this season, and all of next season, It's going to look something like a 23 1st, a 2nd/3rd piece, a mid/late pick (probably a 5th), and we can take some cap back as long as its on an expiring deal.

    I would recommend playing him at 2LW though, he is on pace for his usual 45 point season with the Ducks, with a better supporting cast, the guy could seriously take off production wise, of course you could swap him 2LW and 3C as needed for chemistry/need


    Yeah the thing with the leafs currently is we have a bunch of guys who can fill that 2LW having a guy like Henrique really being a force on the 3rd line would be major. What's his value without retention? If its significantly less than I wouldn't mind that
    29 nov. 2022 à 18 h 45
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    Quoting: jazzhandz321
    Yeah the thing with the leafs currently is we have a bunch of guys who can fill that 2LW having a guy like Henrique really being a force on the 3rd line would be major. What's his value without retention? If its significantly less than I wouldn't mind that


    It would be a fair chunk less without retention, but that may be offset somewhat by how much cap/contract you want us taking back the other way.
    29 nov. 2022 à 18 h 47
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    It would be a fair chunk less without retention, but that may be offset somewhat by how much cap/contract you want us taking back the other way.


    As a base 2nd + Kerfoot for Henrique + 7th?

    I'm sure with retention Kerfoot could fetch a 3rd
    29 nov. 2022 à 19 h 58
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    As a base 2nd + Kerfoot for Henrique + 7th?

    I'm sure with retention Kerfoot could fetch a 3rd


    Kerfoot has no value to the Ducks. First, we can't retain on him and Henrique and Klingberg and Shattenkirk. So it ends up being us trading him or the Leafs trading him and that's something the Leafs have yet to pull off. Which makes me think there aren't as many options to trade him as you are making out. So how about Toronto find that trade for a 3rd and pass us the pick.

    The tricky part with a prospect instead of Kerfoot is the Anaheim pipeline is so much better than the Leafs. There is a very short list of guys Anaheim would want and none of them are guys Toronto wants to part with. Voit and Abruzzese are B-tier kids at best. Mid/late round picks with long shot odds of ever seeing NHL ice.
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    29 nov. 2022 à 20 h 49
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    Kerfoot has no value to the Ducks. First, we can't retain on him and Henrique and Klingberg and Shattenkirk. So it ends up being us trading him or the Leafs trading him and that's something the Leafs have yet to pull off. Which makes me think there aren't as many options to trade him as you are making out. So how about Toronto find that trade for a 3rd and pass us the pick.

    The tricky part with a prospect instead of Kerfoot is the Anaheim pipeline is so much better than the Leafs. There is a very short list of guys Anaheim would want and none of them are guys Toronto wants to part with. Voit and Abruzzese are B-tier kids at best. Mid/late round picks with long shot odds of ever seeing NHL ice.


    Well the trade above is contingent on the fact that Henrique is being traded without retaining any money, so you can flip Kerfoot with a retention slot. And yeah I think Toronto has a lot of middle six and bottom 4 prospects which is good for a contending team but I can see why they wouldn't interest a rebuilder like the Ducks.
     
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