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Créé par: NotDougWilson

Équipe: 2022-23 Bruins de Boston

Date de création initiale: 28 nov. 2022

Publié: 28 nov. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Ryan Whitney on Spittin Chiclets believes that the Bruins can get in on Kane with this tweet - https://twitter.com/ryanwhitney6/status/1597292666949365760?cxt=HHwWgMDT_ffN3KosAAAA

Whit believes the Bruins are all in this year as a dominant team in the NHL.
Please add any prospects/draft picks that need to make this trade happen. I'll start with 2 1sts.

Feel free to add if Whit is an idiot or a genius.

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BOS

Kane, Patrick

Détails additionnels:

50% retained (5,250,000)

CHI

Reilly, Mike
Smith, Craig
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BOS)

Enfoui

Chris Wagner: 225 000 $ (1 350 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	82 500 000 $	78 104 167 $	0 $	4 650 000 $	4 395 833 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Marchand, Brad 6 125 000 $6 125 000 $ AG M-NTC UFA - 3	Coyle, Charlie 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ C, AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Pastrnak, David 6 666 667 $6 666 667 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Hall, Taylor 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Bergeron, Patrice 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ (2 500 000 $$2M) C NMC UFA - 1	DeBrusk, Jake 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Foligno, Nick 3 800 000 $3 800 000 $ AG, C, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Nosek, Tomas 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ AG, C UFA - 1
Zacha, Pavel 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Frederic, Trent 1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Greer, AJ 762 500 $762 500 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Krejci, David 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ (2 000 000 $$2M) C NTC UFA - 1	Kane, Patrick 2 625 000 $2 625 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Lindholm, Hampus 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DG NTC, NMC UFA - 8	McAvoy, Charlie 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ DD UFA - 8	Ullmark, Linus 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3
Grzelcyk, Matt 3 687 500 $3 687 500 $ DG UFA - 2	Carlo, Brandon 4 100 000 $4 100 000 $ DD UFA - 5	Swayman, Jeremy 925 000 $925 000 $ (150 000 $$150K) G RFA - 1
Zboril, Jakub 1 137 500 $1 137 500 $ DG/DD UFA - 2	Strålman, Anton 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DD UFA - 1
Clifton, Connor 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Forbort, Derek 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2

28 nov. 2022 à 17 h 54

#26

ChiHawk

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

Are you expecting the return to kane to be the highest rental return in NHL history? Not meant to be rhetorical, genuinely asking.

I expect it to be slightly better (subjective to a degree based on the prospect or young player included) as Giroux

28 nov. 2022 à 17 h 54

#27

ON3M4N

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Quoting: DoBap

There are other teams that will be willing to give up more, and the Bruins prospect pool feels somewhat shallow.

Unless Chicago is willing to take Mitchell Miller 😬

Other teams likely give up more....but Kane has a NMC and picks his destination. A team could offer the great package of all-time, a real no brainer and if Kane says no I'm not going the, well the package doesn't matter

28 nov. 2022 à 18 h 4

#28

DoBap

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Quoting: ON3M4N

That's true. Don't know Kane personally, but I'm sure he'd approve a trade to any team he genuinely believes to be a true contender.

ON3M4N a aimé ceci.

28 nov. 2022 à 18 h 10

#29

littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

Reilly is a good player. There would be no problem moving him for assets in the off-season when everyone isn’t hard against the cap. He’s worth the $3M.

Two firsts for a rental isn’t really a thing.

He just went unclaimed on waivers.

28 nov. 2022 à 18 h 17

#30

Riley816

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

It wasn’t a 1st, and 14 overall, which is what your statement reads like.

Also a completely different trade as it was in the off-season.

Quoting: DefenseFirst

It wasn’t a 1st, and 14 overall, which is what your statement reads like.

Also a completely different trade as it was in the off-season.

That trade also sucked.

A year of Robert hagg at $1.6M isn’t exactly a earth shattering cap dump.

That trade also sucked.

A year of Robert hagg at $1.6M isn’t exactly a earth shattering cap dump.

I don't see an 'and' in my statement. Might be missing a comma but nowhere is there an and.

Most trades do suck. Hall has been in 3 of them. Hall for Larsson. Hall for #18 OA, Bahl and a 3rd +. And Hall for Bjork and a 2nd.

28 nov. 2022 à 18 h 24

#31

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Quoting: Riley816

That trade also sucked.

A year of Robert hagg at $1.6M isn’t exactly a earth shattering cap dump.

I don't see an 'and' in my statement. Might be missing a comma but nowhere is there an and.

Most trades do suck. Hall has been in 3 of them. Hall for Larsson. Hall for #18 OA, Bahl and a 3rd +. And Hall for Bjork and a 2nd.

You made a list, and referenced a first, the 14th overall, bunch of other stuff.

28 nov. 2022 à 18 h 25

#32

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

He just went unclaimed on waivers.

I’m well aware. Read my statement again.

28 nov. 2022 à 18 h 26

#33

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Quoting: ChiHawk

I expect it to be slightly better (subjective to a degree based on the prospect or young player included) as Giroux

This is much better than what giroux got.

28 nov. 2022 à 18 h 44

#34

ChiHawk

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

This is much better than what giroux got.

2 late 1sts and 2 cap dumps is not. Late 1sts historically have a 30% of turning into a fulltime NHL player, they are a bag of magic beans

28 nov. 2022 à 18 h 54

#35

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Quoting: ChiHawk

2 late 1sts and 2 cap dumps is not. Late 1sts historically have a 30% of turning into a fulltime NHL player, they are a bag of magic beans

Right. Philly got one late first. This is for two late firsts. Philly also moved a former first rounder and a 5th to facilitate it. Philly also retained 50%.

29 nov. 2022 à 1 h 37

#36

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

Right. Philly got one late first. This is for two late firsts. Philly also moved a former first rounder and a 5th to facilitate it. Philly also retained 50%.

Philly also got Owen Tippet who they probably valued quite a bit, a former #10 OA who wasn't living up to the hype in Florida.

29 nov. 2022 à 6 h 40

#37

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Quoting: ChiHawk

Philly also got Owen Tippet who they probably valued quite a bit, a former #10 OA who wasn't living up to the hype in Florida.

The 23 year old AHLer? Throw in.

29 nov. 2022 à 11 h 4

#38

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

The 23 year old AHLer? Throw in.

He's not an AHL'er; has 10 points in 17 games this season with 6 goals. Obviously Philly saw something in him that Florida did not

29 nov. 2022 à 12 h 48

#39

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Quoting: ChiHawk

He's not an AHL'er; has 10 points in 17 games this season with 6 goals. Obviously Philly saw something in him that Florida did not

Right, and he could go on to be the greatest hockey player of all time…but when he was traded, he was a 23 year old AHLer.

29 nov. 2022 à 12 h 57

#40

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

Right, and he could go on to be the greatest hockey player of all time…but when he was traded, he was a 23 year old AHLer.

He still had 42 games in the NHL last season versus 12 games in the AHL for Florida so that's not true.

29 nov. 2022 à 13 h 56

#41

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Quoting: ChiHawk

He still had 42 games in the NHL last season versus 12 games in the AHL for Florida so that's not true.

And where was he at the time of the trade? The AHL, because he had sucked in the NHL.

29 nov. 2022 à 13 h 59

#42

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

And where was he at the time of the trade? The AHL, because he had sucked in the NHL.

That doesn't make him a "AHLer" because he was sent down for a handful of games on a very deep team waiting for him to be moved out.

29 nov. 2022 à 14 h 1

#43

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Quoting: ChiHawk

That doesn't make him a "AHLer" because he was sent down for a handful of games on a very deep team waiting for him to be moved out.

So now you’re saying a 23 year old that was unsuccessful in the NHL and therefore demoted to the AHL isn’t an AHLer. Yeesh.

29 nov. 2022 à 14 h 6

#44

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

So now you’re saying a 23 year old that was unsuccessful in the NHL and therefore demoted to the AHL isn’t an AHLer. Yeesh.

LMAO no I'm saying a guy that played 63 games in the NHL and 12 games in the AHL last season hardly makes him a AHLer Yeesh

29 nov. 2022 à 14 h 9

#45

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Quoting: ChiHawk

LMAO no I'm saying a guy that played 63 games in the NHL and 12 games in the AHL last season hardly makes him a AHLer Yeesh

At the time of the trade was he in the AHL because he wasn’t playing well enough to be rostered on the NHL team?

29 nov. 2022 à 14 h 16

#46

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

At the time of the trade was he in the AHL because he wasn’t playing well enough to be rostered on the NHL team?

On a very deep Florida team, it's highly situational based on a individual team need and or if a player goes into a slump teams will do that as a confidence builder...not that uncommon. 12 AHL games versus 63 NHL games hardly makes him a AHLer...not rocket science here. Now he has 6 goals, 10 points in 17 games this season. He's not a bust AHLer and Philly knew that.

29 nov. 2022 à 14 h 17

#47

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Quoting: ChiHawk

It was 42, not 63. So he was in the AHL because he couldn’t play well enough to be in the NHL but he wasn’t an AHLer, got it. You seem very rational.

29 nov. 2022 à 14 h 20

#48

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

It was 42, not 63. So he was in the AHL because he couldn’t play well enough to be in the NHL but he wasn’t an AHLer, got it. You seem very rational.

42 games versus 12 games makes him a AHLer...got it. YOU seem incredibly irrational

29 nov. 2022 à 14 h 38

#49

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Quoting: ChiHawk

42 games versus 12 games makes him a AHLer...got it. YOU seem incredibly irrational

Was he in the AHL?

29 nov. 2022 à 14 h 43

#50

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

Was he in the AHL?

You're a piece of work LMAO

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