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Getting Some Firsts

Créé par: Nick_SUCCzuki
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 27 nov. 2022
Publié: 27 nov. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
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MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
COL
  1. Monahan, Sean (3 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
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MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
TOR
  1. Edmundson, Joel
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
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MTL
  1. Foegele, Warren
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
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27 nov. 2022 à 15 h 57
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You know nothing JS
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What's sad is a user who's been banned multiple times and keeps coming back under different names.


Who's he?
27 nov. 2022 à 16 h 4
#27
Let Him Cook
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crouse is a bum, anderson is a god, gotta love capfriendly
27 nov. 2022 à 16 h 6
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Leaving this here for those in denials.





Meaning nothing what a reporter wanting clickbait says .
27 nov. 2022 à 16 h 8
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Fact: Leafs don't need any LHD.
Oilers or no team wants to pay 5.5m for Anderson until there is retention or long term bad cap being returned to Montreal.
These trades posted usually aren't really relevant as they don't show the cap this year and future years when lots of cap goes to one team.
27 nov. 2022 à 16 h 54
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Who's he?


Cmcavoy, Bcarlo.. the list goes on
27 nov. 2022 à 16 h 54
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Quoting: palhal
Meaning nothing what a reporter wanting clickbait says .


Lol. Pierre LeBrun is like the most trusted insider. You'd have a point if a local Montreal reporter said it, but unfortunately you don't.
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27 nov. 2022 à 17 h 18
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You are not getting 1st rounders for Monahan and Edmundson not a chance

You will have to add more with Anderson to get a 1st
27 nov. 2022 à 17 h 46
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Leaving this here for those in denials.

These analysts are always spouting projections. How often are they ever right though!? Not very often

Sure Teams might be inquiring, to see if they can acquire him on a deal, but obviously nobody’s interested or biting if they’re asking for a 1st or Top Prospect in exchange for him.

At $5.5mil/yr x 5 more years, Anderson’s just not worth it. Given his injury history and style of play, at 28, I can’t imagine his body holds up too much longer. I expect his play to continue to decline and not be anything particularly exciting. I predict a dramatic slow down similar to Lucic after turning 28
27 nov. 2022 à 18 h 19
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
And, Marner makes too much money. Its pointless to argue with you ppl. There are confirmed reports that Anderson is GREATLY coveted by multiple GMs. If i have to explain to you that the market dictates a return, we are speaking another language. A hockey card is also a piece of paper but it is always worth what ppl are willing to pay and Anderson is that rookie card that every GM would like. To ignore that fact is as oblivious as thinking racism is not real at the World Cup


This whole thread is a wild ride, but I want to come back to this one. Did you just compare Anderson’s trade market value to being as obvious as racism? I think we need to sit with this one for a little bit here.
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27 nov. 2022 à 18 h 39
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Swing and a miss. Aging winger?! He's 28. My.Gawd


So a year or two shy of when most forward begin their decline? Got it.
27 nov. 2022 à 20 h 33
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Quoting: Nightowl26
You are not getting 1st rounders for Monahan and Edmundson not a chance

You will have to add more with Anderson to get a 1st


With what evidence ? Literally nothing has Anderson worth less than a 1st besides metrics only valued by the very few that continually have trade values in the wrong
27 nov. 2022 à 20 h 35
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Quoting: jpsnow13
Chiarot-No, Lehkonen-No.... oh wait😎


Dont you bring actual fact into the equation here. The doubters are too busy bringing into play hearsay
27 nov. 2022 à 20 h 38
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Lol. Pierre LeBrun is like the most trusted insider. You'd have a point if a local Montreal reporter said it, but unfortunately you don't.


I dunno you can show some of these ppl 4K video of the the Kennedy assassination and they'll claim another shooter. Beyond delusional. Not even going to address a few of the lunatics in here that dont get off their soap box and have been wrong too many times to count errrr...Avs fan..errr..crawls really slow like his mind
27 nov. 2022 à 20 h 43
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You know nothing JS
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
So a year or two shy of when most forward begin their decline? Got it.


2 years away from a decline start means!?!?! A career peak! Ewww, who would want that..

LOL you are reaaaally good to see negative anywhere. What ever suit your narative dude
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27 nov. 2022 à 20 h 46
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
With what evidence ? Literally nothing has Anderson worth less than a 1st besides metrics only valued by the very few that continually have trade values in the wrong


Logic.
27 nov. 2022 à 20 h 47
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2 years away from a decline start means!?!?! A career peak! Ewww, who would want that..

LOL you are reaaaally good to see negative anywhere. What ever suit your narative dude

I’m realistic. If that bums you out, move along.

Forwards usually peak far younger. Trends show that the best of Anderson is behind him.
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27 nov. 2022 à 20 h 49
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I dunno you can show some of these ppl 4K video of the the Kennedy assassination and they'll claim another shooter. Beyond delusional. Not even going to address a few of the lunatics in here that dont get off their soap box and have been wrong too many times to count errrr...Avs fan..errr..crawls really slow like his mind


Yeah but clickbait!
27 nov. 2022 à 20 h 50
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Quoting: jpsnow13
Chiarot-No, Lehkonen-No.... oh wait😎


i mean...Lehkonen specifically *didn't* get a 1st rounder back, he got a late 2nd and a prospect.

Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Swing and a miss. Aging winger?! He's 28. My.Gawd


Anderson *is* aging for what he is, though - he's a power forward and a lot of his value comes from his physicality. He's already proven he's not the most durable guy (3 of his 6 full seasons had him missing 13, 19, and 56 games) so a contract that will cover him through his age-33 season has a ton of potential to turn into a dud.

Here's a comp for you: Milan Lucic. Good, physical power forward, and through his age-28 season was inarguably a *much* better player than Anderson has been to date - he averaged 20 goals & 50 pts per 82 GP through that season, and only had one season where he missed major time (2009-10).

Wonder what Lucic's age-29 through -32 seasons looked like?
age 29 ('17-18): 82 GP, 10-24-34
age 30 ('18-19): 79 GP, 6-14-20
age 31 ('19-20): 68 GP, 8-12-20
age 32 ('20-21): 56 GP, 10-13-23

Basically a 10-18-28/82 GP player after that, and Edmonton wound up dumping him in a trade of disappointing wingers after 3 of those above seasons.

Does it mean Anderson is going to turn into a bum? Not necessarily - I do think some of the hate he gets around here is a bit much. But the fact remains that he's been a somewhat underwhelming power forward who's going to spend the most of his remaining term on the wrong side of 30, and who hasn't really produced in a way to justify his $5.5M AAV. I could see another team doing a Neal/Lucic type of deal and possibly sending an asset to Montreal in that case; I can't see a team giving up a premium asset to assume what will most likely be the decline years of a guy who really wasn't much more than a second liner to begin with.
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27 nov. 2022 à 22 h 58
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You know nothing JS
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I’m realistic. If that bums you out, move along.

Forwards usually peak far younger. Trends show that the best of Anderson is behind him.


I had to underline your nonesense before moving along. Trends show you'll stay in your echo chamber forever.
27 nov. 2022 à 23 h 0
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I had to underline your nonesense before moving along. Trends show you'll stay in your echo chamber forever.


Continue to live in fantasy land. I hope you enjoy it. There are worse things to be denial about than hockey, that’s the good news.
 
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