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Créé par: Boltsradynasty
Équipe: 2022-23 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 20 nov. 2022
Publié: 27 nov. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
TBL
  1. Asplund, Rasmus
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
BUF
  1. Namestnikov, Vladislav
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (TBL)
Rachats de contrats
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2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $80 655 000 $0 $82 500 $1 845 000 $

Formation

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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
900 000 $900 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
762 500 $762 500 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
825 000 $825 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
2 550 000 $2 550 000 $ (1 425 000 $$1M1 425 000 $$1M)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
842 500 $842 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1

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27 nov. 2022 à 10 h 30
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No, you may not have asplund
27 nov. 2022 à 11 h 3
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
No, you may not have asplund


That's you're opinion, and you're entitled to be wrong. Have an awesome Sunday.
27 nov. 2022 à 11 h 7
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i wouldnt give a 2nd for asplund
27 nov. 2022 à 11 h 39
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i wouldnt give a 2nd for asplund


Good. BUF wouldn't trade him for a 2nd either.
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27 nov. 2022 à 13 h 36
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That's you're opinion, and you're entitled to be wrong. Have an awesome Sunday.


I will and I will enjoy my Rasmus for years to come.
27 nov. 2022 à 18 h 8
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Quoting: Boltsradynasty
That's you're opinion, and you're entitled to be wrong. Have an awesome Sunday.
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i wouldnt give a 2nd for asplund
Sabre fans are in love with Asplund.
Since Namestnikov has been traded twice for a fourth round pick, Tampa is willing to give up a late 2nd for Rasmus, while Buffalo absorbs to $1,675,000 salary difference.
Buffalo does not need Namestnikov and he would leave the team at the end of the season.
Asplund is worth more to the Sabres than late second round pick.
Buffalo would rather keep Asplund than to trade him for a near third round pick.
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27 nov. 2022 à 18 h 20
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Sabre fans are in love with Asplund.
Since Namestnikov has been traded twice for a fourth round pick, Tampa is willing to give up a late 2nd for Rasmus, while Buffalo absorbs to $1,675,000 salary difference.
Buffalo does not need Namestnikov and he would leave the team at the end of the season.
Asplund is worth more to the Sabres than late second round pick.
Buffalo would rather keep Asplund than to trade him for a near third round pick.


(Maybe maybe not) I think the value is still there and Kevin Adams might pull the trigger.
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27 nov. 2022 à 18 h 27
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(Maybe maybe not) I think the value is still there and Kevin Adams might pull the trigger.
Kevin Adams may make the trade, but since Jason Karmanos joined the staff he has not allowed KA to make any more silly deals.
So I will quote myself:
"Asplund is worth more to the Sabres than late second round pick.
Buffalo would rather keep Asplund than to trade him for a near third round pick."
And absorb the difference in the salary between the two.
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28 nov. 2022 à 0 h 13
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Quoting: Boltsradynasty
(Maybe maybe not) I think the value is still there and Kevin Adams might pull the trigger.


There's no value. BUF is no longer in the business of collecting draft picks for the sake of selling off good players. Asplund is just coming into his own. Trading him for a 2nd round pick is like hitting the reset button.
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We can disagree amicably. I think You're wrong there is value. Maybe with a .429 point%the reset button needs to be hit.
What makes me think I hit a pretty accurate price. Neither teams fans like it so it's probably fair market value.
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28 nov. 2022 à 3 h 7
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Quoting: Boltsradynasty
We can disagree amicably
What makes me think I hit a pretty accurate price. Neither teams fans like it so it's probably fair market value.


BUF is not going through another rebuild. They are not selling off pieces. BUF doesn't like it because it doesn't make any sense. We don't need 2nd round picks. We've already got 3 of them and a boatload of prospects.
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28 nov. 2022 à 3 h 12
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We would trade Asplund for Perbix.
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28 nov. 2022 à 11 h 7
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We would trade Asplund for Perbix.


yeah, i would do that if i was Buffalo, but Tampa cant do that
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We would trade Asplund for Perbix.


And you'd be throwing in those 3 seconds
28 nov. 2022 à 17 h 5
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Trade is horrible for Buffalo. Tampa may target Asplund at/near the deadline, but it's going to be more costly than joke Names and a late 2nd. Maybe Tampa offers Foote+a 2nd or 3rd for Asplund and a mid to late pick, but Buffalo very quickly declines this offer.
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28 nov. 2022 à 17 h 6
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We would trade Asplund for Perbix.


Don't see Tampa offering Perbix as the main piece imo, but I could see them offering Foote+ perhaps.
28 nov. 2022 à 17 h 44
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And you'd be throwing in those 3 seconds


See? This is an example of both teams not fully behind a trade. We most certainly would not be throwing in anything else. Asplund is a much more proven player. He's 6 months older than Perbix, but has a 154GP sample size, compared to Perbix's 14.

I think you are seriously underrating Asplund. He was 19th in Selke voting last year. He's a young cost-controlled player that plays a great two-game game and has more offense in him (See: 2022 World Championship, 10GP 6G 3A)
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See? This is an example of both teams not fully behind a trade. We most certainly would not be throwing in anything else. Asplund is a much more proven player. He's 6 months older than Perbix, but has a 154GP sample size, compared to Perbix's 14.

I think you are seriously underrating Asplund. He was 19th in Selke voting last year. He's a young cost-controlled player that plays a great two-game game and has more offense in him (See: 2022 World Championship, 10GP 6G 3A)


Perbix spent 4 years in college excuse him for getting an education. Playing so well he got placed on TBs 2nd pairing with less than 20 professional games You're DRASTICALLY under rating Perbix. He also plays a much more valuable position RD are like LHP in Baseball they get a heavy premium
28 nov. 2022 à 18 h 57
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Perbix spent 4 years in college excuse him for getting an education. Playing so well he got placed on TBs 2nd pairing with less than 20 professional games You're DRASTICALLY under rating Perbix


See? This is when two teams make comprises about giving up talent.
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28 nov. 2022 à 19 h 20
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See? This is when two teams make comprises about giving up talent.


I agree that Perbix would be the initial ask, but I think Tampa, if they haven't already, will soon view him as the future 2nd pairing RD. If Tampa was deep at the position, I could see something around Perbix for Asund, but as it stands, I still think Foote+better pick/prospect for Asplund and weaker pick/prospect may be the best Tampa can do. Ultimately, RD is still more valuable for the Bolts than middle 6 winger.
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28 nov. 2022 à 19 h 44
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I agree that Perbix would be the initial ask, but I think Tampa, if they haven't already, will soon view him as the future 2nd pairing RD. If Tampa was deep at the position, I could see something around Perbix for Asund, but as it stands, I still think Foote+better pick/prospect for Asplund and weaker pick/prospect may be the best Tampa can do. Ultimately, RD is still more valuable for the Bolts than middle 6 winger.


I think that is a realistic scenario that could unfold if the 2 GMs wanted to make something happen. I would be seriously considering an offer like that. BUF doesn't really have a player like Asplund coming up the ranks, so he's tough for us to give up, but we need more depth on D and Foote could grow into our 2nd pairing with Power.
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