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Créé par: Hawsie91
Équipe: 2023-24 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 26 nov. 2022
Publié: 26 nov. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
21 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
87 000 000 $
87 000 009 $
22 750 000 $
710 500 000 $
11 500 000 $
11 500 000 $
79 000 000 $
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ARI
  1. Fabbri, Robby
  2. Vrána, Jakub
  3. Zadina, Filip
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (DET)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (DET)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DET)
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Fabbri is a cap dump
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2082 500 000 $78 451 398 $0 $4 257 500 $4 048 602 $
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
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7 000 009 $7 000 009 $
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
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UFA - 4
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
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RFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
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UFA - 1
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878 333 $878 333 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
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1 460 000 $1 460 000 $
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
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4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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26 nov. 2022 à 13 h 26
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Detroit declines. Way too much for Chychrun. Yzerman isn't trading 1sts. Classless to trade Vrana right now when he's in the NHL Players Assistance Program.
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26 nov. 2022 à 13 h 33
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I think Pasta is going to get more if he hits UFA.
Remember the cap is about to explode
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26 nov. 2022 à 14 h 1
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7 million for Larkin, I think you're a bit shy a few million dollars there. I like chychrun but not that much.
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26 nov. 2022 à 14 h 13
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I think Pasta is going to get more if he hits UFA.
Remember the cap is about to explode


Not next season but the season after. If you look at what CapFriendly has listed it has $83,500,000 listed for next season and then in 2024-25 it has $87,500,000 listed then in 2025-26, 2026-27 and 2027-28 it has $92,000,000.
26 nov. 2022 à 14 h 16
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I think you move Suter or Veleno or if Kasper is close to ready both of them.
26 nov. 2022 à 14 h 22
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Not next season but the season after. If you look at what CapFriendly has listed it has $83,500,000 listed for next season and then in 2024-25 it has $87,500,000 listed then in 2025-26, 2026-27 and 2027-28 it has $92,000,000.


Well a couple things:
1) CF is a projection. Its not the actual number.
2) Bettman has said that if they hit a certain threshold the cap could jump by 4 mil THIS offseason
3) Pasta is signing a contract for the next 7/8 years. The cap exploding is going to be a signifigant consideration whether it happens this or next off season
26 nov. 2022 à 14 h 44
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Well a couple things:
1) CF is a projection. Its not the actual number.
2) Bettman has said that if they hit a certain threshold the cap could jump by 4 mil THIS offseason
3) Pasta is signing a contract for the next 7/8 years. The cap exploding is going to be a signifigant consideration whether it happens this or next off season


Thought that was Bill Daly,but yeah was thinking the same thing.
26 nov. 2022 à 15 h 17
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Well a couple things:
1) CF is a projection. Its not the actual number.
2) Bettman has said that if they hit a certain threshold the cap could jump by 4 mil THIS offseason
3) Pasta is signing a contract for the next 7/8 years. The cap exploding is going to be a signifigant consideration whether it happens this or next off season


But if the number is unknown CapFriendly just puts up the last sure cap number which would be $82,500,000. Now if it is listed somewhere on the site that I have it wrong please let me know or anywhere else for that matter Let me know because I'd rather get it right and be wrong. But you have to remember the CBA was pushed through because of COVID and a lockout or strike which was predicted on the new CBA would've been catastrophic for the league.

Quoting: CBA
Once Preliminary HRR for the immediately preceding League Year surpasses $4.8 Billion, the Upper Limit will increase by $1 Million per League Year until the Escrow Balance is paid off.


So last year was $5.3B and it will probably be over $4.8M if not more than last year but you still have the escrow to eliminate. So I really think Capfriendly numbers are correct. From CapFriendly pov putting up a guesstimate would create too many problems and just wouldn't be worth it. You know how nit-picky the members here can be.
26 nov. 2022 à 15 h 26
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Quoting: Random2152
I think Pasta is going to get more if he hits UFA.
Remember the cap is about to explode


I hope you're right about the cap exploding as it would mean the NHL has got better revenues. But Bettman his minions have been promising that for years, actually one of the reasons he was hired over 25 years ago. Hasn't happened yet, but really no reason to think it's going to explode.
26 nov. 2022 à 15 h 59
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Quoting: palhal
I hope you're right about the cap exploding as it would mean the NHL has got better revenues. But Bettman his minions have been promising that for years, actually one of the reasons he was hired over 25 years ago. Hasn't happened yet, but really no reason to think it's going to explode.


You dont keep up with the news do you? It is confirmed to be about to explode
26 nov. 2022 à 16 h 4
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But if the number is unknown CapFriendly just puts up the last sure cap number which would be $82,500,000. Now if it is listed somewhere on the site that I have it wrong please let me know or anywhere else for that matter Let me know because I'd rather get it right and be wrong. But you have to remember the CBA was pushed through because of COVID and a lockout or strike which was predicted on the new CBA would've been catastrophic for the league.



So last year was $5.3B and it will probably be over $4.8M if not more than last year but you still have the escrow to eliminate. So I really think Capfriendly numbers are correct. From CapFriendly pov putting up a guesstimate would create too many problems and just wouldn't be worth it. You know how nit-picky the members here can be.


That threshold i mentioned is if the players pay back enough of HRR, then the cap can go up again. Its projected to not be done this year, hence why CF guesses the cap is going to be 83.5 in accordance with what you said, but it is still a guess on their part. (I think they havea tweet saying it too when they did it). Anyway it is a guess. Thats not up for debate.

Bettman said they were making more money than expected and the players might pay it all off this year which would allow that cap explosion to start this off season rather than next.

Regardless, the point is it doesnt matter whether the explosion is this year or next. Pasternaks contract will be factoring it in
26 nov. 2022 à 18 h 5
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laugh laugh Way way to much for Jakob Chychrun he can't even stay healthy. 2 1st and a 2nd not even incuding Vrana+Zadina+Fabbri is too much for Chychrun.

Dylan Larkin will get at least the Mathew Barzal deal 8 x $9,150,000 if not slightly more. Don't you think Larkin would already be resigned for 7 x $7,000,000 plus if that's all it took Larkin is worth a hell of a lot more then Bertuzzi.

David Pastrnak will get closer to 7 x $12,000,000 on the open market he want's Panarin money rather easily.

And you give Bo Horvat 7 x $9,000,000 which is way too much. Larkin has a far better scoring average over the course of his career than Horvat does.
26 nov. 2022 à 19 h 54
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That threshold i mentioned is if the players pay back enough of HRR, then the cap can go up again. Its projected to not be done this year, hence why CF guesses the cap is going to be 83.5 in accordance with what you said, but it is still a guess on their part. (I think they havea tweet saying it too when they did it). Anyway it is a guess. Thats not up for debate.

Bettman said they were making more money than expected and the players might pay it all off this year which would allow that cap explosion to start this off season rather than next.

Regardless, the point is it doesnt matter whether the explosion is this year or next. Pasternaks contract will be factoring it in


Ok I agree with Pasta getting his money no matter what somebody will be willing to give him what he wants. Ok I'm obviously missing something here so if the players escrow debt is paid off by the end of the season it can raise up to $4M for the 2023-24 season. If they don't pay it off the cap WILL raise by $4M for the 2024-25 season or the cap CAN raise by $4M for the 2024-25 season? What I'm asking is the cap going to be $87,500,000 for the 2024-25 season no matter what?
26 nov. 2022 à 20 h 51
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Ok I agree with Pasta getting his money no matter what somebody will be willing to give him what he wants. Ok I'm obviously missing something here so if the players escrow debt is paid off by the end of the season it can raise up to $4M for the 2023-24 season. If they don't pay it off the cap WILL raise by $4M for the 2024-25 season or the cap CAN raise by $4M for the 2024-25 season? What I'm asking is the cap going to be $87,500,000 for the 2024-25 season no matter what?


There is no limit to how high it can go. 4 mil was just the estimate Bettman gave. And they wont know until June 30th or so (literally the NHL will have no idea for sure until FA)

TL;DR
Basically there is a small chance the artifically low cap can start raising again this year, and if not it will almost certainly be next.

Thats what you need to know
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26 nov. 2022 à 22 h 36
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There is no limit to how high it can go. 4 mil was just the estimate Bettman gave. And they wont know until June 30th or so (literally the NHL will have no idea for sure until FA)

TL;DR
Basically there is a small chance the artifically low cap can start raising again this year, and if not it will almost certainly be next.

Thats what you need to know


Thank you for the explanation.
28 nov. 2022 à 13 h 57
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Wow this is quite an overpayment
 
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