Just no...Avs are not trading 1st and Girard for a rental, full stop

COL isn’t doing that either. Horvat to COL doesn’t work.

Tell you GM to stop calling the Canucks then...

Could always eat half of Bo's salary and send walker to Colorado instead of the Toronto deal. That would provide a replacement for Girard.

According to who? Because the only thing being talked about in COL is injuries, and I find it very hard to believe COL would make a major move a) because they haven’t played one game with a healthy roster and b) they aren’t trading anybody on d because they have played the majority of the year with at least one AHL dman in the line up.

Or the Avs could just skip Horvat and the Canucks altogether and work out a deal with LA around Girard & Danault. Problem solved. Vancouver fans can then send Horvat to somewhere that actually makes sense (though they probably won't!)

Horvat would be a pure rental in Colorado, They can't afford him long term. They're not giving up Girard and a 1st for a rental. besides no way would that be a winning bid on Bo.

Girard and a late 1st round pick for Bo Horvat is easily beaten.

Kings pass. They are not going to trade their #2 center to CO

Lol. Calls out Canucks fans for sending Horvat to a team in need of a 2C that probably prefers a rental to maintain cap space next season as illogical. And then suggests to just trade for a division rival's (who is also a playoff teams) 2C because that makes way more sense and LA would definitely be interested in trading their 2C perennial selke candidate to a division rival.

Makes a LOT more sense to Colorado. Which is the point you missed. Your half-arsed, half-baked attempts to send Horvat to Colorado make sense for Vancouver and don't for Colorado. Have I illustrated the point adequately for you yet? The Avs are highly unlikely to be going to be interested in Horvat as a rental or give up those pieces. Just as LA would be highly unlikely to want to trade Danault for Girard!

Of course they pass unless it's an overpay. That's kind of the point I was trying to illustrate. The VAN fans Horvat to Colorado trades only make sense for VAN. Acquiring Danault makes a LOT more sense to Colorado but little sense for LA.

It doesn't though. Horvat to Colorado makes sense. Avs fans are just ridiculous on here. If you talk to non keyboard warrior fans they have interest in Horvat.

Not sure I've ever seen an avs fan on here with a logical take. Y'all act like no team has ever traded for a rental.

Horvat to COL does NOT make sense to anyone but VAN fans. Nobody on here is being a kb warrior it's simply discussion (if you're butthurt about it then public forums perhaps aren't the place for you?) and we've all given 'nucks fans the benefit of our knowledge of our team. Only VAN fans keep trying to foist Horvat onto Colorado. The Avs cupboard is bare so they will be unlikely to use that 1st rounder on a rental they have absolutely NO chance of re-signing. Neither would they use Girard who is a young top 4 D on a great contract in that manner. You appear to have no idea what any semblance of logic is.

dude, avs fans have been logical this entire time, you just cant get your get past your own canucks view point.

Teams can not invest at the deadline every year, that is how they get into trouble really fast. Avs depleted their futures last year with smart buys. Picking up Lehkonen and Manson, both guys they paid to get and were able to keep bc of RFA control or talking to Manson prior to the trade his desire to sign in Colorado. HE waived to go to the Avs, avs knew they had the contract space to keep him.

Avs will make a trade at the deadline to load up, but htey arent being reckless wiht all these Horvat proposals. They simply can not afford to invest the assets in him and then watch him walk. It creates a bigger hole next year. And no moving girard doesn't open up cap, it creates a masive voide that they have to go and spend in UFA to plug, they will just get a worse player in UFA and over pay to do so. Its not smart business.

Sakic and his front office are patient, to the point they are painfully patient. They do not get into bidding wars at deadlines, they do not panic trade, they have select targets they go after, they set their prices and if they arent met, they move on. They have been operating like this for 10 years under his watch. Horvat isnt going to make t hem change how they manage their assets and conduct trades.

This is what avs fans have been telling people in these horvat proposals for weeks, yet guys like you refuse to listen. When Avs fans say its a bad trade, its not bc they are being trolls, delusional etc, they know how their team operates, and nothing is pointing towards t hem changing now

Dude I gave a very reasoned and logic reason why it doesn’t work. You just don’t like that it doesn’t. COL expended their tradeable non roster asset last year when they traded a 1st 2 2nds 2 3rds and their top 3 defensive prospects. They aren’t trading roster players because they are currently playing an entire 4th line of AHLer until the last game they are playing 3rd pairing of guys from the AHL and literally have ZERO guys available to them that are NHL caliber on the roster right now. They aren’t trading for a guy they have zero ability to re-sign, and no even if they move Girard they can’t sign a big ticket guy like Horvat and fill out the roster that would include having to sign at least 8 forwards and 2 dmen.

This is the first time I've seen an explanation like this and it's much appreciated. That makes complete sense. I have no problem accepting others viewpoint if they explain it.

Nahh you never gave much logic or answered questions when I tried to find out more from you.

That whole paragraph is reasoned. What part isn’t reasoned? The part where they haven’t played with a healthy roster all year? Or the part where they can’t re-sign Horvat even if they moved someone like Girard for straight futures? Or that they spent their high end capital that isn’t on the roster last year? Or do you just like to be obtuse?