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Créé par: Juiceman
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 19 nov. 2022
Publié: 19 nov. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Canucks picks:

1OA: Connor Bedard (C/RW)
12OA: Matthew Wood (RW)
15OA: Andrew Cristall (LW)
16OA: Cameron Allen (RHD)
20OA: Theo Lindstein (LHD)
29OA: Lukas Dragicevic (RHD)

33OA: Michael Hrabal (G)
35OA: Jakub Dvorak (LHD)
47OA: David Reinbacher (RHD)

Taxi Squad = Our rejuvenated prospect pool
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 750 000 $
21 750 000 $
2800 000 $
2775 000 $
2775 000 $
2950 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Bedard, Connor
3950 000 $
Wood, Matthew
3950 000 $
Cristall, Andrew
3950 000 $
Allen, Cameron
3950 000 $
Dvorak, Jakub
3950 000 $
Reinbacher, David
3950 000 $
Hrabal, Michael
3950 000 $
Dragicevic, Lukas
3950 000 $
Lindstein, Theo
3950 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Walsh, Reilly [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
17OA
NJD
  1. Demko, Thatcher
Détails additionnels:
Probably done during the draft assuming Demko bounces back to his normal ELITE form
2.
VAN
  1. Kasper, Marco
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (DET)
Détails additionnels:
12OA
DET
  1. Rathbone, Jack
Détails additionnels:
Horvat 50% retained +extension

Apparently Steve Y likes Horvat. Done during 2023 trade deadline
3.
VAN
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
ANA
  1. Myers, Tyler (2 000 000 $ retained)
4.
VAN
  1. Bailey, Josh
  2. Holmström, Simon
  3. Palmieri, Kyle
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
15OA
5.
VAN
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
16OA
PIT
  1. Miller, J.T.
Détails additionnels:
Traded before NMC kicks in
6.
VAN
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
20OA
TOR
    Kuzmenko

    2023 Trade deadline assuming Kuzmenko continues to produce well
    7.
    VAN
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CHI)
    Détails additionnels:
    29OA + 33OA
    CHI
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
    Détails additionnels:
    17OA
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
    AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    C, AG
    UFA - 1
    Bedard, Connor
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    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    AD, AG
    RFA - 1
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    AD
    RFA - 1
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    AD, AG
    RFA - 2
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    AG, AD
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    AD, C
    UFA - 2
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    762 500 $762 500 $
    AD, C
    RFA - 1
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    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    883 750 $883 750 $
    C
    RFA - 1
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    825 000 $825 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 4
    950 000 $950 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
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    762 500 $762 500 $
    G
    UFA - 1
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    2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
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    1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
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    786 111 $786 111 $ (Bonis de performance30 000 $$30K)
    G
    RFA - 1
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    1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
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    1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
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    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    AD, AG, C
    UFA - 1
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    775 000 $775 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    775 000 $775 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Équipe de réserve
    Wood, Matthew
    950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    Cristall, Andrew
    950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    Allen, Cameron
    950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    Lindstein, Theo
    950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    Dragicevic, Lukas
    950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    Dvorak, Jakub
    950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    Reinbacher, David
    950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    Hrabal, Michael
    950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    883 750 $883 750 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
    918 333 $918 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
    C
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    863 333 $863 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    AD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    833 333 $833 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
    AD
    RFA - 3
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    816 667 $816 667 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    AG
    RFA - 2

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    19 nov. 2022 à 23 h 19
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    Quoting: Warrior24
    Well that is something we can agree on, Bailey has been terrible. Obviously Johnston is not the answer, time for a call up.


    I would call up Holmstrom
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    19 nov. 2022 à 23 h 19
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    Highly doubtful Yzerman gives up both Kasper and a top 14th pick. For Horvat and Rathbone.
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    19 nov. 2022 à 23 h 24
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    Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
    On most teams Horvat would be either 1C or 2C depending on what team he's being traded to, There's no way he's playing LW when most of his career is at center.


    Centers move to wing all the time for the best of the team in a playoff run. Look at stamkos who goes back and forth between wing and center depending on injuries and team needs.
    19 nov. 2022 à 23 h 28
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    Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
    Highly doubtful Yzerman gives up both Kasper and a top 14th pick. For Horvat and Rathbone.


    Thought so. Can replace Kasper with another combination of prospects. Main goal is to acquire as many 2023 picks as possible
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    19 nov. 2022 à 23 h 52
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    Wood used to live with the Bedard’s. Cook story on NHL.com.

    (Also, Devils pick 17th? If the rest of the season turns out that way, “Fire Lindy” chants might return)
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    20 nov. 2022 à 0 h 0
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    Wood used to live with the Bedard’s. Cook story on NHL.com.

    (Also, Devils pick 17th? If the rest of the season turns out that way, “Fire Lindy” chants might return)


    I see them making the playoffs. I don't see them going too far though... I've had the privilege to watch Matthew Wood play on the Victoria Grizzles.
    20 nov. 2022 à 0 h 57
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    Well you almost nailed the title.
    20 nov. 2022 à 1 h 27
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    I see them making the playoffs. I don't see them going too far though... I've had the privilege to watch Matthew Wood play on the Victoria Grizzles.


    Juicer you from the Island? We've had a couple good young players come through the Grizz in the last few years. I can't want to see Bedard at Save on Foods next weekend, I ended up getting box seats for the game!
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    20 nov. 2022 à 1 h 36
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    Quoting: Reason
    Juicer you from the Island? We've had a couple good young players come through the Grizz in the last few years. I can't want to see Bedard at Save on Foods next weekend, I ended up getting box seats for the game!


    Yup, from the island. Jamie Benn is quite popular around here
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    20 nov. 2022 à 2 h 37
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    Yup, from the island. Jamie Benn is quite popular around here


    Right on man. I used to go to tryouts with Jodie out on the peninsula. I still have a clear memory of a conversation I was having with him in one of our bantam years where he told me I was the best player on the ice, of course I got cut anyways lol. I know a couple of people that are still friends with him and Jamie.
    20 nov. 2022 à 3 h 27
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    Lol, he has been a top 10 goalie in the league the past 2 years with basically a bottom 5 defense core. Nice to see some internet trolling


    The defense core last year wasn't bottom 5
    20 nov. 2022 à 4 h 27
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    Main goal is to acquire as many 2023 picks as possible


    How odd. That's the exact same goal as Yzerman has.
    20 nov. 2022 à 5 h 49
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    I suppose value is fine IF Demko plays at the same level as he's done going back to the bubble playoffs, very big if however.
    But even if Demko were to return to form I wouldn't want the Devils to do your suggested trade, if offered.

    I think Fitzgerald and his team are building something very special here.
    I'd rather the Devils add that 2023 1st and Holtz to the core and keep it younger for a longer duration, while finding a complement to Vanecek via FA.
    I think that course of action would allow the Devils better chances to become one of the most dominant teams of the cap era while being able to sustain that throughout the 20s.

    FWIW can't see the Canucks moving Demko out so soon, think they'd have to be very bad for at least one more soon for such a move to be seriously considered.
    20 nov. 2022 à 13 h 21
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    Quoting: Knuckl3s
    The defense core last year wasn't bottom 5


    Demko truly covered the holes on our defense core and it’s showing this year because it’s a sinking ship and Demko can’t save it this time
    30 nov. 2022 à 4 h 49
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    Demko truly covered the holes on our defense core and it’s showing this year because it’s a sinking ship and Demko can’t save it this time


    There are holes, nobody is denying that, but the forwards deserve a lot more accountability for the defensive struggles this year. Our defense core hasn't been the main culprit of what has cost the team games this season, it's been a combination of Demko's struggles and the forwards not playing down low enough in the defensive end mostly
    30 nov. 2022 à 8 h 28
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    i dont think detroit does that
    9 déc. 2022 à 0 h 20
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    1st one looks good.
    There is no way in hell you'll be g3tting Steve to give up former 8th Overall pick and the 12th overall pick, for someone he likes. He might give 12th, Wallander, Berggren.
    Tyler Myers os not getting a 3rd even at 4million. Maybe if at 3m, but not from Anaheim, they are not buying nor need Myers. They have Klingberg, Shattenkirk, soon Drysdale. Like , can you trade him to a worse team?
    Boeser may be able to fetch Bailey 1 for 1. So there's no way Garland is gonna fetch 15th overall, 2 2nds, a former 1st, and Palmieri. Dude cmon. He can probably fetch ya a 2nd and Holmstrom.
    Canucks didn't sign Miller to trade him right after...values there tho.
    Kuzmenko will get 2nd and 3rd max. No chance gets a 1st +.
    Last when is fine.
    9 déc. 2022 à 2 h 27
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    Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
    1st one looks good.
    There is no way in hell you'll be g3tting Steve to give up former 8th Overall pick and the 12th overall pick, for someone he likes. He might give 12th, Wallander, Berggren.
    Tyler Myers os not getting a 3rd even at 4million. Maybe if at 3m, but not from Anaheim, they are not buying nor need Myers. They have Klingberg, Shattenkirk, soon Drysdale. Like , can you trade him to a worse team?
    Boeser may be able to fetch Bailey 1 for 1. So there's no way Garland is gonna fetch 15th overall, 2 2nds, a former 1st, and Palmieri. Dude cmon. He can probably fetch ya a 2nd and Holmstrom.
    Canucks didn't sign Miller to trade him right after...values there tho.
    Kuzmenko will get 2nd and 3rd max. No chance gets a 1st +.
    Last when is fine.


    Sean Monahan will get a first ++but a far superior player like Kuzmenko has no chance of getting a first?

    As for the Isles trade, it is unrealistic but the Isles are basically dumping Palmieri and Bailey which are worse the two worst contracts in the trade.
    9 déc. 2022 à 11 h 6
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    Sean Monahan will get a first ++but a far superior player like Kuzmenko has no chance of getting a first?

    As for the Isles trade, it is unrealistic but the Isles are basically dumping Palmieri and Bailey which are worse the two worst contracts in the trade.


    Kuzmenko is not far superior, he's a benefactor. He can't create anything himself. He's a complimentary piece.

    It still wouldn't cost a 1st and a 2nd to dump palmieri...
    9 déc. 2022 à 11 h 8
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    Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
    Kuzmenko is not far superior, he's a benefactor. He can't create anything himself. He's a complimentary piece.

    It still wouldn't cost a 1st and a 2nd to dump palmieri...


    He can’t create anything himself? 😂 😂 😂. What does Monahan do??? @Db1899 Monahan is surely a play driver right?
    9 déc. 2022 à 11 h 13
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    Quoting: Juiceman
    Sean Monahan will get a first ++but a far superior player like Kuzmenko has no chance of getting a first?

    As for the Isles trade, it is unrealistic but the Isles are basically dumping Palmieri and Bailey which are worse the two worst contracts in the trade.


    Quoting: Juiceman
    He can’t create anything himself? 😂 😂 😂. What does Monahan do??? Db1899 Monahan is surely a play driver right?


    I will say kuzmenko is not a passenger.

    Just have to comment on the contracts part, I’d take palmieri and his contract over Boeser. Palmieri is the better player.
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    9 déc. 2022 à 13 h 36
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    Quoting: Db1899
    I will say kuzmenko is not a passenger.

    Just have to comment on the contracts part, I’d take palmieri and his contract over Boeser. Palmieri is the better player.


    Loui Eriksson clears both easily
    30 déc. 2022 à 19 h 38
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    Well u certainly got the “unrealistic” part right
    🤣🤣🤣

    Only thing i saw that was reasonable was the Myers trade
    30 déc. 2022 à 20 h 29
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    Quoting: Buffalove
    Well u certainly got the “unrealistic” part right
    🤣🤣🤣

    Only thing i saw that was reasonable was the Myers trade


    Kinda crazy that you went through my ACGM history to find a post over a month old
     
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