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Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 17 nov. 2022
Publié: 17 nov. 2022
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17 nov. 2022 à 21 h 50
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I think the Canucks would want Nemec for Hughes

Edit: The Hughes brothers, Hamilton and Marino would be a sick top4
17 nov. 2022 à 21 h 53
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I think the Canucks would want Nemec for Hughes

Edit: The Hughes brothers, Hamilton and Marino would be a sick top4


With severson gone nemetz is the guy they are expecting to come up and fill the slot. The prospects i have them moving here are expendable, but nemetz isnt

Also yes it would be sick
17 nov. 2022 à 21 h 55
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We love Quinn.

But Devils aren’t looking at this.
17 nov. 2022 à 21 h 56
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We love Quinn.

But Devils aren’t looking at this.


Need to give them a reason you know. Cant just fleece them
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17 nov. 2022 à 21 h 59
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Need to give them a reason you know. Cant just fleece them


We don’t need Quinn. Hamilton, Severson…with Hughes, Nemec, Casey on the way. We have plenty of offense from back end.

If there is anyone we’d overpay for it would probably be Demko.
17 nov. 2022 à 22 h 2
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We don’t need Quinn. Hamilton, Severson…with Hughes, Nemec, Casey on the way. We have plenty of offense from back end.

If there is anyone we’d overpay for it would probably be Demko.


Severson is gone. The dcore next year is:

Seigs-hamilton
Hughes-marino
Hughes?-nemec

Makes much more sense
17 nov. 2022 à 22 h 6
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Severson is gone. The dcore next year is:

Seigs-hamilton
Hughes-marino
Hughes?-nemec

Makes much more sense


Siegenthaler - Hamilton
Graves / UFA - Marino
Bahl / Okhotiuk / Smith - Hughes
17 nov. 2022 à 22 h 11
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Siegenthaler - Hamilton
Graves / UFA - Marino
Bahl / Okhotiuk / Smith - Hughes


Thats so much worse than what i have here
17 nov. 2022 à 22 h 17
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Thats so much worse than what i have here


Not really. As we would expect Mercer, Holtz will play important roles.

Neither NJD fans nor VAN fans want Quinn-to-NJD.
17 nov. 2022 à 22 h 19
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Thats so much worse than what i have here


Nobody's going to argue that Graves > Q. Hughes... but sacrificing that much forward depth just to put a couple of guys on the 3rd pairing who really shouldn't be there is a complete waste.

And is it really "so much worse"? Devils have one of the best backends in the league right now... That top 6 -Severson +Hughes&Nemec is perfectly fine by me. Definitely not worth sacrificing high-end forward depth to add to it.
17 nov. 2022 à 22 h 20
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Nobody's going to argue that Graves > Q. Hughes... but sacrificing that much forward depth just to put a couple of guys on the 3rd pairing who really shouldn't be there is a complete waste.

And is it really "so much worse"? Devils have one of the best backends in the league right now... That top 6 -Severson +Hughes&Nemec is perfectly fine by me. Definitely not worth sacrificing high-end forward depth to add to it.


Youre losing one guy of note depth wise
Youre adding Hughes
Math works out real nice here
17 nov. 2022 à 22 h 21
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Not really. As we would expect Mercer, Holtz will play important roles.


Id be surprised if this happens frankly
17 nov. 2022 à 22 h 36
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Youre losing one guy of note depth wise
Youre adding Hughes
Math works out real nice here


Pass its a cute marketing stunt but Luke will end up being better than Quinn and Nemec will do just fine as the consolation prize.
Our depth of good players is why we're good rn, don't mess it up. Quinn can come at the end of his contract or just prior. We're good now, yeah maybe Demko. Send back Blackwood and a pkg
17 nov. 2022 à 22 h 48
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Pass its a cute marketing stunt but Luke will end up being better than Quinn and Nemec will do just fine as the consolation prize.
Our depth of good players is why we're good rn, don't mess it up. Quinn can come at the end of his contract or just prior. We're good now, yeah maybe Demko. Send back Blackwood and a pkg


Saying Luke will be better is a huge bet with very little other than hope behind it
17 nov. 2022 à 23 h 1
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Saying Luke will be better is a huge bet with very little other than hope behind it


Chips in!
The entire family has said Luke was the best one
Look what he is doing at Mich.
Even if he's half of all that, it makes no sense to take on his contract when the D is set at the top rn. It's using your cap space pretty foolishly imo.
Let him come after his contract like I said

Edit- just looked at the pcs going back again, there's no way the devs do this, it's dumb!
17 nov. 2022 à 23 h 2
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Chips in!
The entire family has said Luke was the best one
Look what he is doing at Mich.
Even if he's half of all that, it makes no sense to take on his contract when the D is set at the top rn. It's using your cap space pretty foolishly imo.
Let him come after his contract like I said


So you can spend more money on him for less productive years on average? What happened to spending cap space intelligently?
17 nov. 2022 à 23 h 2
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Nemec would need to be involved if there’s a chance this deal happens, like Nemec, two 1st, Mercer/Holtz
17 nov. 2022 à 23 h 3
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Nemec would need to be involved if there’s a chance this deal happens, like Nemec, two 1st, Mercer/Holtz


You arent getting 4 1sts of value. Thats insane
17 nov. 2022 à 23 h 5
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So you can spend more money on him for less productive years on average? What happened to spending cap space intelligently?


Who says I'm spending more? And with your comment, we commit $8m to a team who is set for the next 3-4 yrs at D. Two of which will be on entry level deals. Talk about foolish cap spend.
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You arent getting 4 1sts of value. Thats insane


Can’t see Van trade him for less, but I’m not the GM, the 1st would be late rounders and Hughes will be a 70 pt d man this year
17 nov. 2022 à 23 h 5
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You arent getting 4 1sts of value. Thats insane


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Who says I'm spending more? And with your comment, we commit $8m to a team who is set for the next 3-4 yrs at D. Two of which will be on entry level deals. Talk about foolish cap spend.


You cant seriously think Hughes won't get a raise in UFA
17 nov. 2022 à 23 h 12
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So you can spend more money on him for less productive years on average? What happened to spending cap space intelligently?


It goes to goaltending and the forward group... where help is needed.

Why are you telling 3 different Devils fans what the Devils need?... Mercer and Holtz are needed more than Quinn. Devils could maybe use another high-end forward, never mind discarding two.

Like Smitty said, even if Luke is only half of what Quinn is. He doesn't really NEED to be more, the expectations for him next season are just to play 3rd pairing minutes.

If Quinn had a different last name, nobody would see a fit here.
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17 nov. 2022 à 23 h 15
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It goes to goaltending and the forward group... where help is needed.

Why are you telling 3 different Devils fans what the Devils need?... Mercer and Holtz are needed more than Quinn. Devils could maybe use another high-end forward, never mind discarding two.

Like Smitty said, even if Luke is only half of what Quinn is. He doesn't really NEED to be more, the expectations for him next season are just to play 3rd pairing minutes.

If Quinn had a different last name, nobody would see a fit here.


Saying your reasons dont line up with your thinking is not "telling fans what they need"

Besides being a fan does not mean you know what you need at all.
17 nov. 2022 à 23 h 22
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Saying your reasons dont line up with your thinking is not "telling fans what they need"

Besides being a fan does not mean you know what you need at all.


You've given no reasons why Holtz and Mercer are expendable, while Quinn Hughes is a desperate need. Why Quinn? Why not Chychrun? Why not Graves? Is it maybe just because of his last name?

3 guys that have watched likely close to every Devils game for years probably knows a bit more about they need than somebody who watched a couple per year? Never mind watching Utica... Michigan... Salavat... etc games.

I wish I had your confidence.
 
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