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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #5: Montreal’s youngster wonders

27 nov. 2022 à 20 h 1
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Can't believe Canucks fans actually wanted to trade Pettersson at the beginning of last season....


Bruce thinks miller is a better two way player
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27 nov. 2022 à 20 h 6
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Still wondering why Buffalo was mentioned in Chycrun talks

To me Chycrun should be the target of a team needing a top 4 LD. Buffalo has 2 #1OA LD and Samuelsson

If im Buffalo I would be looking for a forward with experience.


Probably because all of our LDs can play RD. So you line up your top 6 like

Samuelsson - Dahlin
Chychrun - Power (can switch since Chrchrun can also play RD) could switch Chychrun to the first pair as well.
Johnson - Jokiharju
27 nov. 2022 à 20 h 23
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Fabbro is just a slight upgrade defensively

https://twitter.com/jfreshhockey/status/1433520816155729924?lang=en

https://twitter.com/jfreshhockey/status/1423398078556643328?lang=en

Plus hes younger. If they trade Joki they should go for a for someone who is a sure upgrade rather than a very minimal one. Plus how much is he benefiting from Ekholm, Josi, and McDonagh as I feel those guys help his stats a bit


I think Jok has fallen off a good bit tbh. Fabbro is a decent 2nd Pair Dman, whereas I think Jok is more fitted for a 3rd Pairing Role now. Still young of course but I think there has been a sizable Regression since those cards, and the current Cards also show that.
27 nov. 2022 à 20 h 27
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I think Jok has fallen off a good bit tbh. Fabbro is a decent 2nd Pair Dman, whereas I think Jok is more fitted for a 3rd Pairing Role now. Still young of course but I think there has been a sizable Regression since those cards, and the current Cards also show that.


The one thing to me is how much if Fabbro getting carried or assisted by Ekholm, Josi, or McDonagh. As those guys are very good. Like if Joki was with them got a feeling he would be the better D.
27 nov. 2022 à 20 h 27
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He’ll never reach that, he can’t play a full season in the AHL, he’s on a “conditioning stint”


He can do two weeks without being returned to CHL. Seattle could play him two weeks in AHL, call him up, healthy scratch him for 5 games, then send him back to AHL. Should probably be a candidate for world juniors somewhere in there too.
27 nov. 2022 à 20 h 29
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Probably because all of our LDs can play RD. So you line up your top 6 like

Samuelsson - Dahlin
Chychrun - Power (can switch since Chrchrun can also play RD) could switch Chychrun to the first pair as well.
Johnson - Jokiharju


When Devils won 1995 cup, they did it with six left-handed dmen. Not a minute played by RHD. The lefty/righty thing sometimes gets overvalued by fans.
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27 nov. 2022 à 20 h 39
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When Devils won 1995 cup, they did it with six left-handed dmen. Not a minute played by RHD. The lefty/righty thing sometimes gets overvalued by fans.


RHD is waaaaaaayyyyy overated, Its all personal preference for me I always liked playing on my offside more. Hockey is so fast paced where this type of stuff doesnt matter as much as people think.
27 nov. 2022 à 20 h 51
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Still wondering why Buffalo was mentioned in Chycrun talks

To me Chycrun should be the target of a team needing a top 4 LD. Buffalo has 2 #1OA LD and Samuelsson

If im Buffalo I would be looking for a forward with experience.


Dahlin has been a RD this year but your point still stands Buffalo doesn’t really need a LD with Power and Samuelsson there
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27 nov. 2022 à 20 h 53
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NHL just took away Elias Pettersson's goal from last night and gave it to Kuzmenko. He has 10 goals on the season
27 nov. 2022 à 20 h 55
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NHL just took away Elias Pettersson's goal from last night and gave it to Kuzmenko. He has 10 goals on the season


He's gonna get and Elite Return at the deadlinewink
27 nov. 2022 à 20 h 56
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He's gonna get and Elite Return at the deadlinewink


He is already a fan favourite. Its gonna suck when he is gone
27 nov. 2022 à 20 h 57
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Modifié 27 nov. 2022 à 21 h 3
Anyone else feel Seattle is the new Florida Panthers

They got a nice forward core, alright defense, but ****ed up the goaltending department by giving their starter to much and he underperforms to the point where the contract is an Anchor.

Like I feel Grubauer is gonna keep them back from major success like Bob in Florida. To bad its unmoveable as a Tandem of Jones/Dreidger would probs work out well for them until they can develop a nice goalie
27 nov. 2022 à 21 h 34
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He is already a fan favourite. Its gonna suck when he is gone


You don't think Vancouver will try to extend him?
27 nov. 2022 à 21 h 36
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Anyone else feel Seattle is the new Florida Panthers

They got a nice forward core, alright defense, but ****ed up the goaltending department by giving their starter to much and he underperforms to the point where the contract is an Anchor.

Like I feel Grubauer is gonna keep them back from major success like Bob in Florida. To bad its unmoveable as a Tandem of Jones/Dreidger would probs work out well for them until they can develop a nice goalie


good thing they have Martin Jones to bail them out
27 nov. 2022 à 21 h 37
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massive yikes for Castonguay & Co.
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27 nov. 2022 à 21 h 42
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good thing they have Martin Jones to bail them out


Say what you want about Martin Jones, He really isnt terrible he was a solid backup for Philly and he has been pretty good for Seattle
27 nov. 2022 à 21 h 43
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You don't think Vancouver will try to extend him?


Doubt the Canucks even can
27 nov. 2022 à 21 h 56
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good thing they have Martin Jones to bail them out


While not a great solution he has looked much better than Grubauer

Seattle needs to just find and develop a goalie or draft one with their 1st that should be the goal for 2023

Michael Hrabal could very well be that guy
27 nov. 2022 à 22 h 0
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Say what you want about Martin Jones, He really isnt terrible he was a solid backup for Philly and he has been pretty good for Seattle


I said it because he has actually been great this season
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27 nov. 2022 à 22 h 0
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Doubt the Canucks even can


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27 nov. 2022 à 22 h 4
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You don't think Vancouver will try to extend him?


Lets be honest with his contract he is gonna go to Tampa at the TDL

They will pay handsomely for him and will give 0 ****s that he is a rental

Van will probs take Namestnikov back along with probs Howard and a 2nd.
27 nov. 2022 à 22 h 6
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Lets be honest with his contract he is gonna go to Tampa

They will pay handsomely for him and will give 0 ****s that he is a rental


They don't have many assets to trade
27 nov. 2022 à 22 h 7
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They don't have many assets to trade


Issac Howard 31 OA pick last year, a 2nd and Namestnikov to make the money work

Basically a similar deal to what Lehkonen went for except for the money going the other way via Namestnikov

If Howard isnt the guy they could do Duke, Edmonds, or Finley
27 nov. 2022 à 22 h 9
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Issac Howard 31 OA pick last year, a 2nd and Namestnikov to make the money work

Basically a similar deal to what Lehkonen went for except for the money going the other way via Namestnikov


they won't be able to extend kuzmenko so I don't think they'd give up Howard
27 nov. 2022 à 22 h 11
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they won't be able to extend kuzmenko so I don't think they'd give up Howard


Lets say they go to the finals and win like what we saw with Savard they wont care

Sure its another guy gone but they still got Duke, Finley and Edmonds in their system

In general teams like Tampa want to win now and worry later so guys like Howard are basically trade chips and if a guy like Kuzmenko can be added at the cost of him go for it. As I feel he would do very well in Tampa's top 6.
 
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