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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #5: Montreal’s youngster wonders

25 nov. 2022 à 23 h 15
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Bobcat’s Post Game Notes, Game 20

Jackets lose, 3-2 to the New York Islanders.

-Today’s notes are gonna be very special to me. On this day, I made the trek to Columbus to watch my first Blue Jackets game in person. Gonna be lit.

-Emil Bemstrom wasn’t doing as well as we had hoped. Back to Cleveland you go so you can continue kicking faces in. In his place comes Carson Meyer, a hometown boy that will probably be playing 4th line minutes.

-The inside of the NWA, for lack of a better term, is magical. I wanna do this more often.

-This has nothing to do with the game, but as I was waiting in line at the concession stands, a lady walked by with not “MERZLIKINS” on the back of her old Reverse Retro jersey, but just “ELVIS”. Apparently she couldn’t spell Merzlikins when she got it custom-made.

-Early power play: Casey Cizikas off for hooking. I finally got to yell “JACKETS ON THE POWER PLAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY” like the PA announcer in person.

-Rosie with a breakaway, but Sorokin slams the door. That was our first (and really only) good chance of the power play, and we don’t do anything with it.

-Boone’s off to the box for holding, but it didn’t look like holding to me. Let’s kill this off, boys.

-We do kill it off. Excellent work by Guddy in particular, making some quick clearances. Good stuff.

-…Oliver Wahlstrom scores on a harmless wrister that blows by Korpi. Ouch.

-As the first period dies…. I can’t really think of anything to say. We played pretty acceptably. Just gotta get back even…

-Oliver Wahlstrom gets sent off for stick-holding, but I really thought Boone was going off for slashing. Either way, we do nothing with it.

-Eric Robinson gets sent off for tripping (although Wahlstrom might have sold that). This is gonna be rough…

-Jean-Gabriel Pageau capitalizes off of an odd bounce to bury it past Korpi. Not much he could do there.

-We have a GOD-SENT opportunity to score, but Ilya makes a prone save. That man is gonna win the goddamn Vezina this year.

-OH SH*T!! ANDERS LEE! MATHIEU OLIVIER! LLLLLLLLLLLET’S GET READY TO RUMBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE!!!!

-Both sides got their licks in, but the refs jumped in and ruined the fun before we got to see someone fall. Draw.

-Wait, huh? We’re on a 5-on-3? Adam Pelech goes off for slashing, and Cal Clutterbuck goes off for interference. Capitalize, boys.

-BARTENDER, POUR ME A YEGOR BOMB!!! YEGOR CHINAKHOV SCORES HIS FOURTH GOAL ON THE YEAR! I got a good look at that one. That was BEAUTIFUL.

-33 seconds later: Kenny takes a slapper that blows right by Sorokin. This game is tied, and my voice is hoarse.

-Marcus Bjork and Casey Cizikas start shoving each other, and they both get sent off for roughing. 4-on-4 Hockey Time.

-…Brock Nelson scores on a wrister. It says on the scorer’s sheet that it was unassisted, but the real assist goes to #70, Joonas Korpisalo. Who was that pass even to?

-Literally IMMEDIATELY after Bjork gets out of the box, he takes an interference penalty. Back in the box he goes. You CANNOT play the puck until you completely leave the box. A rookie mistake.

-We had our chances, but didn’t convert because Ilya Sorokin is God himself. A close fought game, but just barely not enough.

-Although we lost, I had a f*cking BLAST. The NWA was rocking all game long, and it helped me forget that I was having to watch it while sitting next to my supportive, if not infuriatingly oblivious stepmother.
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25 nov. 2022 à 23 h 19
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Jason Robertson is a cheat code
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25 nov. 2022 à 23 h 28
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Quoting: Db1899
Jason Robertson is a cheat code


5 on 5 for sure

Morrisey did the God code for 3 on 3

When a Dman become forward NHL be crazy
25 nov. 2022 à 23 h 31
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Quoting: aadoyle
5 on 5 for sure

Morrisey did the God code for 3 on 3

When a Dman become forward NHL be crazy


He’s elite at every aspect of the game. Best winger in the game and at this point he’s solidified himself as a top 10 player overall
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25 nov. 2022 à 23 h 37
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Quoting: Db1899
He’s elite at every aspect of the game. Best winger in the game and at this point he’s solidified himself as a top 10 player overall


Bit of a stretch there as there are other wings in the league who are better. Still has work to do to make top 10 NHL player overall or be labelled the best NHL winger of the current era but hes off to a good start will give him that
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26 nov. 2022 à 7 h 56
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Bit of a stretch there as there are other wings in the league who are better. Still has work to do to make top 10 NHL player overall or be labelled the best NHL winger of the current era but hes off to a good start will give him that


Which wingers are better than Robertson?
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26 nov. 2022 à 10 h 16
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Which wingers are better than Robertson?


Both Bruins top line wingers (Pasta and Marchand)
Rantanen
Kucherov
Stone (might be controversial but as long as he’s healthy I’d take him over Robertson)
Kaprizov
Panarin
And Patty Kane

Enough evidence?
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26 nov. 2022 à 10 h 17
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Quoting: IconicHawk
Both Bruins top line wingers (Pasta and Marchand)
Rantanen
Kucherov
Stone (might be controversial but as long as he’s healthy I’d take him over Robertson)
Kaprizov
Panarin
And Patty Kane

Enough evidence?


Also forgot about Matthew Tkachuk
26 nov. 2022 à 10 h 30
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Quoting: IconicHawk
Both Bruins top line wingers (Pasta and Marchand)
Rantanen
Kucherov
Stone (might be controversial but as long as he’s healthy I’d take him over Robertson)
Kaprizov
Panarin
And Patty Kane

Enough evidence?


You provided no evidence, just your opinion. And all of them are wrong.


Patrick Kane lmao cmon man I can’t you serious with that
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26 nov. 2022 à 10 h 31
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You provided no evidence, just your opinion. And all of them are wrong.


Patrick Kane lmao cmon man I can’t you serious with that


Delusional stars fan much?
26 nov. 2022 à 10 h 36
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Delusional stars fan much?


Yeah everyone on here knows I’m a big stars fan, you got me.

The funny thing about your argument is that nothing supports most of those players you listed being better than Robertson. Points, analytics , even strength production. Most of them aren’t even on the same level as Robertson, who is a Hart candidate this season
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26 nov. 2022 à 10 h 41
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Delusional stars fan much?


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26 nov. 2022 à 11 h 1
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26 nov. 2022 à 11 h 11
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You provided no evidence, just your opinion. And all of them are wrong.


Patrick Kane lmao cmon man I can’t you serious with that


Patty Kane currently has 12% WAR 6% EV Offense and 0% EV Defense on Jfresh player cards Currently
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26 nov. 2022 à 11 h 12
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Patty Kane currently has 12% WAR 6% EV Offense and 0% EV Defense on Jfresh player cards Currently


Analytics underrate his offense a bit because he’s an elite passer, but Kane is just an average top 6 winger right now.
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26 nov. 2022 à 11 h 17
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Analytics underrate his offense a bit because he’s an elite passer, but Kane is just an average top 6 winger right now.


I know I'm not in the party of Analytics are the End all Be all, I do think they are a tool and can indicate how a Player plays. Kane is one of my favorite players but he is not the same player.
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26 nov. 2022 à 11 h 22
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Patty Kane currently has 12% WAR 6% EV Offense and 0% EV Defense on Jfresh player cards Currently


What does he have for Jesper Bratt vs Jason Robertson?
26 nov. 2022 à 11 h 26
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What does he have for Jesper Bratt vs Jason Robertson?


Bratt 92% WAR, 96% EV OFFENSE, 53% EV Defense

Robertson : 99% WAR, 99% EV OFFENSE, 46% EV Defense
26 nov. 2022 à 11 h 29
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Yeah everyone on here knows I’m a big stars fan, you got me.

The funny thing about your argument is that nothing supports most of those players you listed being better than Robertson. Points, analytics , even strength production. Most of them aren’t even on the same level as Robertson, who is a Hart candidate this season


This year no doubt Robertson is the best imo. But over the last couple years their where others that where better.
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26 nov. 2022 à 11 h 30
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This year no doubt Robertson is the best imo. But over the last couple years their where others that where better.


Right now robertson is the best. Over the past 3 years he’s still top 5.
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26 nov. 2022 à 11 h 31
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Both Bruins top line wingers (Pasta and Marchand)
Rantanen
Kucherov
Stone (might be controversial but as long as he’s healthy I’d take him over Robertson)
Kaprizov
Panarin
And Patty Kane

Enough evidence?


I’d certainly take Marchand, Kucherov, Rantanen over Robertson, however, having guys like Kane and Panarin kinda dilutes your list
26 nov. 2022 à 11 h 34
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At this moment I think Robo is leading the Hart race. He's at, what, 14 game point streak, is second in points and topping goals league-wide, while clocking considerably less ice time due to Dallas heavy rotation.

It's really no contest, Robertson is the best winger in the league right now, based on pretty much any meaningful statistic.
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26 nov. 2022 à 11 h 36
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Quoting: IconicHawk
Both Bruins top line wingers (Pasta and Marchand)
Rantanen
Kucherov
Stone (might be controversial but as long as he’s healthy I’d take him over Robertson)
Kaprizov
Panarin
And Patty Kane

Enough evidence?


That's a relatively weak list you just mustered there mate.
26 nov. 2022 à 11 h 36
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At this moment I think Robo is leading the Hart race. He's at, what, 14 game point streak, is second in points and topping goals league-wide, while clocking considerably less ice time due to Dallas heavy rotation.

It's really no contest, Robertson is the best winger in the league right now, based on pretty much any meaningful statistic.


He’s not as flashy as some of the other top guys which is why fans are biased towards them. But there’s no arguing Robertson is the most effective which is what’s most important
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26 nov. 2022 à 11 h 42
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Right Now:
1. Robertson
2. Kaprizov
3. Kucherov
T.4 Marner/ Rantenen
5. Marchand (Just Very hard to put him higher though he might deserve it)
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