I think they are bad enough to have a shot at Bedard even with Gavrikov.
Without him it might turn into such a ****show it might even be a threat for Jarmos job.

Jarmo's job probs already on the line for giving Gudbranson that god awful deal

Wonder what Florida's plan is once Duclair is off LTIR

Got to think hes getting traded as I dont see a way to move Hornqvist due to the limited resources Florida possesses now (they probs want to now keep all they can)

3 teams who should be all over him Toronto, Edmonton, Calgary

Everyone is quoting from rulebook on the third goal, but not for first two goals. Both should have been allowed.


For #1 --





Even if one is looking at the contact between Bastian's skate and Murray's skate, it was not as goal was being scored. Play should have continued.




Keep part is "In no way does he affect the goalkeeper's ability to defend his goal" as Murray was not impeded from making a save. His leg stretched as far as it would go.


For #2 --



Refs had two choices here. They deemed no penalty, thus as a rule, goal should have been allowed.

Sean McIndoe did a breakdown of each significant event from last night.

Good read if you have The Athletic, but if not here are the cliffnotes:

1) First call was correct. Bastian was in the crease and refs always give the goaltender benefit of the doubt.
2) Second call wasn't correct. Ruff should've challenged because it likely would've been overturned. Toronto should've gotten a powerplay.
3) Murray knocking the net off was intentional and should've been a delay of game.
4) Third call was correct and it's very hard to argue otherwise. Rule 37.4 states it doesn't matter if it was deflected.
5) Devils fans can be mad about it.

Ruff could not challenge as he wasted it with the correct call

And actually the second goal would not have been counted under rule 69.4

"No. That’s not how the rule works anymore. It used to, back when the penalty for a missed challenge was losing your timeout. But the league changed the rule a few years ago, and now coaches can challenge as often as they want.

There’s one important detail here: If Ruff had challenged and had the ruling go against him, the Devils would have taken a double minor instead of the usual minor. That’s the added penalty for being wrong more than once. Maybe that impacted Ruff’s calculation here. Or maybe he just figured it wasn’t his night when it came to replays. But he could have challenged if he’d wanted to, and if he had, I wouldn’t have been surprised if he’d won."

Even so under rule 69.4 NHL would have called the goal back as if Tatar touched Murray when he had the puck and a goal was scored it would have counted. But because Murray played it and was heading back he broke the rule. Ruff probs thought this and was like nope I aint risking it

In general for the second goal to have counted "incidental contact will be permitted when the goalkeeper is in the act of playing the puck outside his goal crease provided the attacking player has made a reasonable effort to avoid such unnecessary contact." Tatar did not try and avoid nor did Murray have the puck. One could honestly call this a 50/50 call and the situ room deemed it a no goal under the conditions above. Should they have also gave a penalty yes but then people would be ****ing about that

Either way the rule while generalized is there. And to be frank NHL has been pretty clear no touch goalies and while penalties arent always assessed. Its one of those k but why rules but to be fair Goalies are the single most important thing to a team and so they got to be protected. We have seen the NHL be pretty strict with it so while we can complain and all that its not gonna change. Maybe some more clarity would be nice but keeping goalies safe should be top priority

They probs again used 69.4 'incidental contact will be permitted when the goalkeeper is in the act of playing the puck outside his goal crease provided the attacking player has made a reasonable effort to avoid such unnecessary contact" . For Murray he is pretty much done and heading back. For the first one the guy is skating by as he is playing it. Tatar has more time to avoid but goes in to the lane which Murray is using. If both happened in a very similar manner (aka Tatar hitting Murray as he plays it that second) it would have probs counted. But because Murray got rid of it quicker and was coming back they deemed it not incidental

And this is the actual reason of the outrage, refs being inconsistent, not the fact they got at least 2 of the calls right, it's the fact they aren't always called the way they should be, let's be real the refs will never be consistent so when they do call by the book, we should congratulate them for calling by the book and not lament the fact it isn't always called that way

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Playoffs are a grand example as games 1-3 call everything 4-7 they only call High Stick, To Many Men, Delay of Game (Puck over Glass) . Consistency is key but in any sport nobody be doing that so its like k. 50/50 calls are like flipping a coin. You either win or lose. They want to play it safe with the goalies and so its fine but now that the bar has been set keep it going. Touch the goalie without being pushed in no goal thats now the criteria

Weird way of wording things but k

Very good article from McIndoe, in the end, like a lot of things in hockey, it comes down to how one interprets the rulebook and your opinion in the heat of the moment

He wants to be an Islander

But his favourite player Motte isnt an Islander

RIP Our Viking Warrior! Another of my childhood heroes is gone. RIP Borje Salming.

Happy thanksgiving everyone

But thanksgiving was over a month ago

How could he betray Tyler Motte like this?

He's asking about the draft - you know the elite end of the "program" - intense GM meetings-media-lights-camera-action...
And not the off-the-map green room, cold-Subway lunch and much-later rounds experience!

(sorry Mrs. Motte xo)

Bedard believes in Lou’s vision

I think that's what it will probably look like next season with Suter either the 7th defenseman or retiring. I don't see them changing anything this year, though.

Why should he? Lou prefers old men up front