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Murphy and Domi

Créé par: Komisarek
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 15 nov. 2022
Publié: 15 nov. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
TOR
  1. Domi, Max (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Murphy, Connor
CHI
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. Robertson, Nicholas
  3. Choix de 2024 ronde en 1e (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
+ B prospect/mid-round pick
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2282 500 000 $78 808 746 $212 500 $0 $3 691 254 $
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UFA - 1
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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UFA - 4
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750 000 $750 000 $
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
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UFA - 1
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4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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840 630 $840 630 $
AG, AD
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
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UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 2

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15 nov. 2022 à 13 h 39
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Why do Leafs fans hate Robertson lol
15 nov. 2022 à 13 h 42
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Why do Leafs fans hate Robertson lol


Because he isn't Jason lol....
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15 nov. 2022 à 13 h 43
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Quoting: Isles5513
Why do Leafs fans hate Robertson lol


Personally I like him. He just isn't a reliable top-six forward yet which the leafs really could use this season. The Leafs also don't have that many attractive chips for a rebuilding team
15 nov. 2022 à 13 h 44
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Personally I like him. He just isn't a reliable top-six forward yet which the leafs really could use this season. The Leafs also don't have that many attractive chips for a rebuilding team


Murphy isn’t the answer to ur prayers imo
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15 nov. 2022 à 13 h 46
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Murphy isn’t the answer to ur prayers imo


Why not? Don't watch a ton of chicago games but sounds like he's a solid two-way legit top-four defenseman, which is exactly what the leafs need with Muzzin out long term
15 nov. 2022 à 13 h 48
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Why not? Don't watch a ton of chicago games but sounds like he's a solid two-way legit top-four defenseman, which is exactly what the leafs need with Muzzin out long term


He’s not a two way player. He’s slightly overpaid imo. He’s like Adam Larsson imo. Much better in theory than in practice. If ur gonna target a righty d man might I suggest Sean Durzi? Lol
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Why not? Don't watch a ton of chicago games but sounds like he's a solid two-way legit top-four defenseman, which is exactly what the leafs need with Muzzin out long term


He's a very solid stay at home defender, very physical and a top 4 guy on almost all teams, top 2 on thinner teams. He's very good, but not a two way defender.
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15 nov. 2022 à 13 h 50
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He’s not a two way player. He’s slightly overpaid imo. He’s like Adam Larsson imo. Much better in theory than in practice. If ur gonna target a righty d man might I suggest Sean Durzi? Lol


Murphy is on a very good contract, one of the better deals for a defender in the NHL. Big and physical stay at home defender and has no problem playing top line minutes; extremely good player just not flashy or isn't going to put up a bunch of points...I believe he has 70% D zone starts which is what he's good at. He'd make a good pairing with Reilly IMO.
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15 nov. 2022 à 13 h 50
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Murphy is on a very good contract, one of the better deals for a defender in the NHL. Big and physical stay at home defender and has no problem playing top line minutes; extremely good player just not flashy or isn't going to put up a bunch of points...I believe he has 70% D zone starts which is what he's good at. He'd make a good pairing with Reilly IMO.


I guess there is an argument he is like Manson, but personally I wouldn’t make this deal.
15 nov. 2022 à 13 h 54
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I guess there is an argument he is like Manson, but personally I wouldn’t make this deal.


He's very hard to rate by stats alone, have you watch him night and night out to look at his value. He's been paired with some awful partners more often then not over the years. His gap control is great, board play is great, net front great, protects the slot well blocking shots...that said, he's not the fastest skater and not great at zone transition as such. With Reilly, he could do well playing the anchor and allow Reilly to excel at what he's best at. Whether the Leafs could benefit from that type of role, I'd say for sure they could, but I'm not the best expert on the Leafs.

That said, Murphy is worth a late 1st all day long, maybe a bit more. Domi, with the way he's playing, is worth a late first. Hawks have no need for Holl as he would only be considered a cap dump and perhaps the Leafs can move Holl elsewhere for a 3rd or 4th rounder back instead of including it here and it being of negative value to the trade from the Hawks perspective. Either way, this deal on paper isn't far off.
15 nov. 2022 à 13 h 56
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He's very hard to rate by stats alone, have you watch him night and night out to look at his value. He's been paired with some awful partners more often then not over the years. His gap control is great, board play is great, net front great, protects the slot well blocking shots...that said, he's not the fastest skater and not great at zone transition as such. With Reilly, he could do well playing the anchor and allow Reilly to excel at what he's best at. Whether the Leafs could benefit from that type of role, I'd say for sure they could, but I'm not the best expert on the Leafs.


Yeah I’m not a huge fan of guys who aren’t in transition. I’m a fan of guys who play a similar style to Devon Toews, Sean Durzi, guys like that lol. I don’t expect them all to be that good ofc.
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Yeah I’m not a huge fan of guys who aren’t in transition. I’m a fan of guys who play a similar style to Devon Toews, Sean Durzi, guys like that lol. I don’t expect them all to be that good ofc.


Depends IMO. If you have a very strong offensive D man who struggles at actually playing defense, then a stay at home pairing is a good fit. You could go with two players that are above average at both ends and in the neutral zone as well, or you can have two guys that excel at one end and compliment each other to balance it out. I know that's over simplifying with logic, but you get the point.
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Why do Leafs fans hate Robertson lol


Mainly because what he is we have lots of already. I think he's a good player and is only 21 but his best value to TO may very well be in a trade.
15 nov. 2022 à 14 h 12
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Murphy isn’t the answer to ur prayers imo


It's almost like this guy forgets his namesake.
15 nov. 2022 à 14 h 12
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He’s not a two way player. He’s slightly overpaid imo. He’s like Adam Larsson imo. Much better in theory than in practice. If ur gonna target a righty d man might I suggest Sean Durzi? Lol


Durzi isn't what we need either
15 nov. 2022 à 14 h 32
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This is a good deal for Toronto, if Hawks fans are happy with that return, it’s a no-brainer IMO
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Why not? Don't watch a ton of chicago games but sounds like he's a solid two-way legit top-four defenseman, which is exactly what the leafs need with Muzzin out long term


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