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Potential Horvat deals

Créé par: oliver_wahlstrom
Date de création initiale: 13 nov. 2022
Publié: 13 nov. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
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NOTE:
I know not every team wants him. But I am doing this j for fun.
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1.
VAN
    Beecher, John ($925,000)
    2023 1st round pick (BOS) (Top 16 Protected)
    Mike Reilly


    2024 4th round pick (BOS) (goes to ARZ for 25% retention)
    BOS
      Bo Horvat (50% retained)
      2.
      VAN
        Cameron Whynot
        2023 1st round pick (CGY) (top 10 protected)
        2024 2nd round pick (CGY)
        Milan Lucic (proceeds to get flipped at 50% retained to a team he is willing to waive for)


        2024 4th round pick (CGY) for (25% retention on Lucic) from CGY
        CGY
          Bo Horvat 50% retained
          2023 4th round pick (NYR)


          I know that the Flames have a lot of forward depth, but A. You can never have too much center depth and B. You could play him on the wing or move a C to the wing. or C. An injury makes you need to make a trade for a C.
          3.
          VAN
            Bowers, Shane ($750,000) (this is at TDL when he is healthy FYI)
            2023 1st round pick (COL)
            Foudy, Jean-Luc ($847,500)


            2026 3rd round pick (COL) to Seattle for 25% retention (3 years out so is a slightly better pick)
            COL
              Bo Horvat (50% retained)
              4.
              VAN
                Kravtsov, Vitali ($875,000)
                2023 1st round pick (DAL) (worse of the Rangers two 2023 first rounders)
                Reaves, Ryan ($1,750,000)

                2024 4th round pick (NYR) to ARZ for 25% retention
                NYR
                  Bo Horvat (50% retention)
                  Spencer Martin
                  5.
                  VAN
                    Minten, Fraser ($875,000)
                    2023 1st round pick (TOR)
                    Voit, Ty ($817,778)
                    2025 4th round pick (TOR)

                    2024 4th round pick (TOR) to ARZ for 25% retention
                    TOR
                      Bo Horvat (50% retention)
                      Ethan Bear (50% retention)
                      6.
                      VAN
                        EDIT: No Minten. Voit took his place and i forgot to take him out lol
                        TOR
                        Rachats de contrats
                        • Braden Holtby: 1 900 000 $
                        • Jake Virtanen: 500 000 $
                        Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
                        • Bo Horvat: 1 375 000 $ (25%)
                        ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE1E RONDE2E RONDE3E RONDE4E RONDE5E RONDE6E RONDE7E RONDE
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                        TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
                        2382 500 000 $80 822 917 $1 250 000 $2 082 500 $1 677 083 $
                        Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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                        Miller, J.T.
                        5 250 000 $
                        AG, C, AD
                        UFA - 1
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                        Pettersson, Elias
                        7 350 000 $
                        C, AG
                        RFA - 2
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                        Boeser, Brock
                        6 650 000 $
                        AD
                        UFA - 3
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                        Mikheyev, Ilya
                        4 750 000 $
                        AG, AD
                        M-NTC
                        UFA - 4
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                        Horvat, Bo
                        4 125 000 $
                        C
                        UFA - 1
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                        Garland, Conor
                        4 950 000 $
                        AD, AG
                        UFA - 4
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                        Kuzmenko, Andrei
                        950 000 $
                        AG, AD
                        UFA - 1
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                        Åman, Nils
                        883 750 $
                        C
                        RFA - 2
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                        Studnicka, Jack
                        762 500 $
                        AD, C
                        RFA - 2
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                        Podkolzin, Vasily
                        925 000 $
                        AG, AD
                        RFA - 2
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                        Joshua, Dakota
                        825 000 $
                        C, AG
                        UFA - 2
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                        Höglander, Nils
                        891 667 $
                        AG, AD
                        RFA - 1
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                        Dries, Sheldon
                        762 500 $
                        C
                        UFA - 2
                        Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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                        Hughes, Quinn
                        7 850 000 $
                        DG
                        UFA - 5
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                        Myers, Tyler
                        6 000 000 $
                        DD
                        M-NTC
                        UFA - 2
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                        Demko, Thatcher
                        5 000 000 $
                        G
                        UFA - 4
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                        Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
                        7 260 000 $
                        DG
                        NMC
                        UFA - 5
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                        Bear, Ethan
                        1 800 000 $
                        DD
                        RFA - 1
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                        Martin, Spencer
                        762 500 $
                        G
                        UFA - 2
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                        Stillman, Riley
                        1 350 000 $
                        DG
                        RFA - 2
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                        Schenn, Luke
                        850 000 $
                        DD
                        UFA - 1
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                        Rathbone, Jack
                        850 000 $
                        DG
                        RFA - 2
                        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
                        Burroughs, Kyle
                        750 000 $
                        DG/DD
                        UFA - 1
                        Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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                        Pearson, Tanner
                        3 250 000 $
                        AG
                        M-NTC
                        UFA - 2
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                        Ferland, Micheal
                        3 500 000 $
                        AG, AD
                        M-NTC
                        UFA - 1
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                        Lazar, Curtis
                        1 000 000 $
                        AD, C
                        UFA - 3
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                        Poolman, Tucker
                        2 500 000 $
                        DD
                        UFA - 3
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                        Dermott, Travis
                        1 500 000 $
                        DG/DD
                        RFA - 1

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                        13 nov. 2022 à 17 h 22
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                        The Leafs one with Minten is the only one that's kinda close. The rest are underpayments
                        13 nov. 2022 à 17 h 23
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                        Late first and low end prospects would be a very poor offer for Horvat 50% retained
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                        13 nov. 2022 à 17 h 34
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                        Leafs don't want Bear but we would easily take do that trade for Horvat
                        13 nov. 2022 à 17 h 35
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                        The Boston trade is pretty laugh Beecher and Reilly have very little value, So it's basically a late 1st for Horvat at 50% retained, No way in hell does Vancouver accept that.

                        The Calgary trade is garbage as well, Lucic and a bunch of late picks doesn't nab Horvat at 50% retained.

                        Colorado Shane Bowers is 23 years old with 0 NHL experience plus a late 1st and Jean-Luc Foudy needs to be a far better offer than that.

                        Sorry but Kravtsov+Dallas 2023 1st round pick 17-21 overall range and Reeves is a pathetic offer. And besides NYR don't have $8,000,000 per to give Horvat as their 3C.

                        laugh Voit a late 1st round pick and a late 4th doesn't even come close to getting Bo Horvat at 50% retained.

                        All of these trades are laugh bad for Vancouver. And i'm not even a Canuck fan and these trades are horrendous. They might be fine for rentals. but Allvin will want to deal Horvat to a team that will sign him long term for a better package. And none of these are them.
                        13 nov. 2022 à 17 h 37
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                        These are all pretty decent.

                        What would you think would be fair value for Montreal?
                        13 nov. 2022 à 17 h 57
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                        those are all awful for the Canucks. none remotely acceptable.
                        13 nov. 2022 à 17 h 59
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                        Quoting: TheAlien
                        The Leafs one with Minten is the only one that's kinda close. The rest are underpayments


                        Voit I would give up and likely add something but I wouldn't trade Minten, I might even move Knies over him.
                        13 nov. 2022 à 18 h 1
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                        Rangers pass easily
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                        13 nov. 2022 à 18 h 2
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                        Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
                        These might be fine for rentals. but Allvin will want to deal Horvat to a team that will sign him long term for a better package. And none of these are them.


                        I agree, that's what he will want but doesn't mean that's what he will get. I think of Detroit and Columbus as being options, I think Detroit would be sending back their own rental in a watered-down package, Columbus might be able to give something better but they probably don't. I'm going to guess that Vancouver isn't going to get a blow away offer from him unless it's from a contender or in a ufa swap.
                        13 nov. 2022 à 18 h 2
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                        Rangers PASS, no need for another top 6 center, much better trade targets out there.
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                        13 nov. 2022 à 18 h 56
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                        Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
                        Voit I would give up and likely add something but I wouldn't trade Minten, I might even move Knies over him.


                        Fine then give us Knies
                        13 nov. 2022 à 22 h 17
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                        Fine then give us Knies


                        I wouldn't do that either, and if I did it would be for a better player than Horvat.
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                        13 nov. 2022 à 22 h 17
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                        Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
                        I wouldn't do that either, and if I did it would be for a better player than Horvat.


                        Good luck
                        13 nov. 2022 à 22 h 21
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                        Good luck


                        You guys are going to be so disappointed
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                        13 nov. 2022 à 22 h 53
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                        I mean decent value I wouldn’t pay no where near that unless he comes with an extension. Apparently Horvat wants to be paid like a 1st liner I’d stay away from him personally.
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                        14 nov. 2022 à 8 h 23
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                        leafs accept but he would definitely walk unless they trade nylander in the off season to re sign him
                         
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