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Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 5 nov. 2022
Publié: 12 nov. 2022
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12 nov. 2022 à 11 h 24
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Shocking...this was proposed by a Habs fan....
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12 nov. 2022 à 11 h 35
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Why is OTT trading away their 2023 1st while sitting in second last and well out of the wildcard chase lol.. oh right, MTL fan proposing the deal
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12 nov. 2022 à 11 h 35
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This would be such a bad move by Ottawa.
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12 nov. 2022 à 12 h 3
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
Shocking...this was proposed by a Habs fan....


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Why is OTT trading away their 2023 1st while sitting in second last and well out of the wildcard chase lol.. oh right, MTL fan proposing the deal


Quoting: MisstheWhalers
This would be such a bad move by Ottawa.


Everyone on the planet: Toronto Fans suck

Canadians fans: hold my beer
12 nov. 2022 à 13 h 10
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
Shocking...this was proposed by a Habs fan....


Quoting: McRanteskog
Why is OTT trading away their 2023 1st while sitting in second last and well out of the wildcard chase lol.. oh right, MTL fan proposing the deal


Quoting: Isles5513
Everyone on the planet: Toronto Fans suck

Canadians fans: hold my beer


Zaitsev is a pure cap dump, probably cost a 1st to move his contract.

Edmundson have the same value as Chiarot, let's say a 1st.

Dvorak is having a good season so far, and MTL isn't moving him for less than a 1st.

And OF COURSE Ottawa would protect that 2023 1st.

I don't think that trade is horrible value wise. Is Sogaard such a top prospect he's worth two 1st alone? Don't think so...

So why are you guys bashing on Habs fans AGAIN? With all those trades we were right about for the last few years, i'd say other teams fans are starting to look bad...
12 nov. 2022 à 13 h 15
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Zaitsev is a pure cap dump, probably cost a 1st to move his contract.

Edmundson have the same value as Chiarot, let's say a 1st.

Dvorak is having a good season so far, and MTL isn't moving him for less than a 1st.

And OF COURSE Ottawa would protect that 2023 1st.

I don't think that trade is horrible value wise. Is Sogaard such a top prospect he's worth two 1st alone? Don't think so...

So why are you guys bashing on Habs fans AGAIN? With all those trades we were right about for the last few years, i'd say other teams fans are starting to look bad...


What the heck have u been right about besides Chiarot lmao. And everyone knew that would happen.
12 nov. 2022 à 13 h 16
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What the heck have u been right about besides Chiarot lmao. And everyone knew that would happen.


Toffoli, Lehkonen, even Kulak. And i could even go farther with Pacioretty back in the days.

And about Chiarot, everyone knew that would happen, but you all said it wouldn't?
12 nov. 2022 à 13 h 17
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Toffoli, Lehkonen, even Kulak. And i could even go farther with Pacioretty back in the days.


Toffoli was expected. Lehkonen was expected. Kulak was slightly higher than normal, but not tremendously.

Meanwhile the Pacioretty trade has more to do with Vegas’s idiocy.
12 nov. 2022 à 13 h 19
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Zaitsev is a pure cap dump, probably cost a 1st to move his contract.

Edmundson have the same value as Chiarot, let's say a 1st.

Dvorak is having a good season so far, and MTL isn't moving him for less than a 1st.

And OF COURSE Ottawa would protect that 2023 1st.

I don't think that trade is horrible value wise. Is Sogaard such a top prospect he's worth two 1st alone? Don't think so...

So why are you guys bashing on Habs fans AGAIN? With all those trades we were right about for the last few years, i'd say other teams fans are starting to look bad...


But why is very bad teams Ottawa choosing to trade a 1st in a great draft....just to dump a salary now...hmm? Do you think this is a very strong Habs bias that just has you out to rob a team blind? Maybe??
12 nov. 2022 à 13 h 20
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But why is very bad teams Ottawa choosing to trade a 1st in a great draft....just to dump a salary now...hmm? Do you think this is a very strong Habs bias that just has you out to rob a team blind? Maybe??


They're not giving a 1st only to dump Zaitsev, they're also getting Dvorak and Edmundson?
12 nov. 2022 à 13 h 23
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Toffoli was expected. Lehkonen was expected. Kulak was slightly higher than normal, but not tremendously.

Meanwhile the Pacioretty trade has more to do with Vegas’s idiocy.


Every Chiarot, Lehkonen, Pacioretty, Toffoli ACGM were getting bashed, even when asking for less than what they actually got.

And now, everyone is saying they NEVER said those players wouldn't be traded for those kind of returns.

Some people even closed accounts or changed names because they were so hard on bashing habs fans, they looked so bad after the trades.
12 nov. 2022 à 13 h 26
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Every Chiarot, Lehkonen, Pacioretty, Toffoli ACGM were getting bashed, even when asking for less than what they actually got.

And now, everyone is saying they NEVER said those players wouldn't be traded for those kind of returns.

Some people even closed accounts or changed names because they were so hard on bashing habs fans, they looked so bad after the trades.


What is this habs propaganda u r talking about lol
12 nov. 2022 à 13 h 26
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They're not giving a 1st only to dump Zaitsev, they're also getting Dvorak and Edmundson?


Why in the world would that help OTT long term, heck, even short term? Those are two pieces it seems Habs fans are happy to trade.

Ottawa is absolutely better off draft than those two guys.
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12 nov. 2022 à 13 h 34
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What is this habs propaganda u r talking about lol


Yea, keep denying. But you all know it happent.
12 nov. 2022 à 13 h 34
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Why in the world would that help OTT long term, heck, even short term? Those are two pieces it seems Habs fans are happy to trade.

Ottawa is absolutely better off draft than those two guys.


Yea, that 2023 pick is gonna help them make the playoffs this year i guess.
12 nov. 2022 à 13 h 47
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Why is OTT trading away their 2023 1st while sitting in second last and well out of the wildcard chase lol.. oh right, MTL fan proposing the deal


COL owes MTL a 1st for that comment
12 nov. 2022 à 14 h 2
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Yea, that 2023 pick is gonna help them make the playoffs this year i guess.


Nothing is helping them make the playoffs this year....and neither would what they receive in your trade.
12 nov. 2022 à 14 h 8
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Nothing is helping them make the playoffs this year....and neither would what they receive in your trade.


They HAVE to make the playoffs this year. Dorion's job is on the line. But i guess you're right, they should give up after 1/6 of the season is played.
12 nov. 2022 à 14 h 17
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They HAVE to make the playoffs this year. Dorion's job is on the line. But i guess you're right, they should give up after 1/6 of the season is played.


They certainly shouldn't trade a 1st...and not for the garbage you are offering. If they got actual talent, they'd be better off...
12 nov. 2022 à 14 h 22
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They certainly shouldn't trade a 1st...and not for the garbage you are offering. If they got actual talent, they'd be better off...


So you're saying Anderson and Dvorak are not worth a 1st each? Can i copy that and get back to you when one of them is traded for a 1st or more?
12 nov. 2022 à 14 h 23
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So you're saying Anderson and Dvorak are not worth a 1st each? Can i copy that and get back to you when one of them is traded for a 1st or more?


Sure, a top 5 pick is worth the same as a 26+ 1st.

C'mon man, use logic.
12 nov. 2022 à 14 h 25
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Sure, a top 5 pick is worth the same as a 26+ 1st.

C'mon man, use logic.


I said of course they would protect the pick.
12 nov. 2022 à 14 h 26
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I said of course they would protect the pick.


And then next year it's unprotected and could be top 5 too.
12 nov. 2022 à 14 h 27
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I said of course they would protect the pick.


Go after a VGK, COL, CAR 1st and you have a shot as those teams are win now...OTT would be idiotic to trade a 1st for either of those guys.
12 nov. 2022 à 14 h 37
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Go after a VGK, COL, CAR 1st and you have a shot as those teams are win now...OTT would be idiotic to trade a 1st for either of those guys.


Could protect the pick top 16, make it a 2023 2nd and 3rd instead of the 1st if they miss the playoffs.

If OTT make the playoffs, MTL get a pick between 17 and 32. If they miss, MTL get a pick between 33 and 48, and a 3rd between 65 and 80.

Because 2023 is a very deep draft, i'd be fine with that return for either player. On another year, i'd want a garanteed 1st.
 
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