Liljegren+

Garland would probs cost a 1st + Niemela as the term would be the factor

Schenn probs a 3rd at the TDL maybe a 2nd if someone was desperate

Would maybe explore a Garland trade but there would be a few factors that come into play for that to happen (i.e. Muzzin being done for the season)

Garland isn’t what the Leafs need at all

I imagine for both it would likely be Niemela and a first which sounds like a lot but the first is probably late so not that big of a deal.

I would also do Garland for Liljegren and a small piece but highly doubt that’s offered

What would a deal around Sandin look like?

Since Garland got 4 years of control I would honestly explore it. Yes Niemela could be in the NHL as soon as next year but rn Leafs should look for an upgrade in the top 6

Now to make cap work Kerfoot would probs also have to be included (i.e. 1st + Kerfoot and Niemela for like Garland and maybe a 6th) but its doable

As Rutherford and Dubas have made some intriguing in the past

Keep dreaming. We already have the cheap version of Garland in Kerfoot.

We already have everything he brings in Kerfoot.

It would look utterly terrible for TO.

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Garland would be a significant upgrade over Kerfoot and put him with Matthews/Marner or Tavares/Nylander probs would get 50-60 points and 20 goals

I have no idea how a smallish winger who scores 50 points a year is worth so much. He's not really anything special. Just a good secondary scorer. Especially to TO who absolutely has no need for Garland. They already have Kerfoot who costs 1.5 less in cap and nothing to acquire. To ask for Liljegren who's is already a top 4 RD on a team that is both better all around and defensively is ridiculous. But par for the course here. You won't get a 1st, or Niemela from TO. They just don't need Garland.

JFresh is so arbitrary. He always has these secondary mid range guys looking like hero's and then people think they are something special. Craig Smith was one of the absolute best players in the league according to Jfresh when he signed in Boston and is good but nothing special. JFresh just doesn't make sense

Even so Garland's the better player in comparison to Kerfoot and while he does not PK we could then go find a 2-way cheap 3c who can replace Engvall

2 upgrades in 1 go

The worse version of Garland in Kerfoot

Why would the Canucks trade a top 6 winger, who’s great at 5v5, and signed for 4 more years at a more than reasonable cap hit, for anything less than a top 4 RHD? It’ll cost good assets to get a player like Garland

I don’t think there is a fair one tbh. I like Sandin a lot but Canucks LD is fine for the most part. Unless this team somehow gets rid of OEL I don’t see the fit. I’d be worried about his development here, with OEL likely taking up to much ice time.

Canucks just need RD

Leafs need Sandin at LHD. Leafs need Sandin and his low cap next year. Leafs may need Kerfoot at centre this year (not Garland)

Problem is rn Sandin has basically been thrown to RD cause Brodie outplayed him and he has not looked good this year.

And no we really dont need Sandin's lower cap hit next year. Cap potentially goes up by at lowest 4mill for 2023 and if Muzzin is done Leafs have money to spend. Could trade him for an upgrade to be honest especially if he continues to struggle.

As for Kerfoot at C that ship sailed a long time ago. LW is where he thrives. They should be exploring all C options available via trade as Engvall is not the solution rn

I disagree on few points. Sure the cap goes up, but other players will want a share of it too. Kerfoot, if any Injury happens to Tavares and Matthews, Kerfoot is the 2c, just like he did so well in the 2021 playoffs.
Aren't Brodie, Liljgren and Holl the RHD, and Reilly, Sandin and Giordano the LHD. ,

Brodie is a LD who plays RD

rn we are playing

Rielly-Liligren
Brodie-Holl
Gio-Sandin

And its been working nicely with Brodie-Holl putting up some good numbers at both ends

So the same as Kerfoot and Garland at the same cap and without giving up a 1st and good prospect for a guy we just don't need.

Look to simply put it as u dont seem to get it

Garland is the better player. Only benefit to Kerfoot is the PK thats it. Thats also replaceable as there are better PKing 3c's out there

Garland is the guy you want in the top 6 while Kerfoot is just a utility guy u place anywhere in the lineup who can do a little bit of everything but not excel at it

If all it costs is a 1st and Niemela to upgrade over Kerfoot for the next 4 years do it. As getting potentially 20 goals and 60 points a season out of Garland will make it all worth it for the long run.

All the power to you. But TO has no need for him at all. He's redundant. If TO obtains a forward it will be a power forward or a centre, not a small winger

Oh I get it. Garland is a bit better than Kerfoot. But he also costs 4.5 million a year and apparently a top prospect and a 1st. All so we can get a guy who may score 50-60 points playing with our stars. Kerfoot and Bunting make the same amount of money and scored 50 and 60 points respectively last season. Why on earth would we spend a 1st and a top prospect and a million more in cap to get the same results we are already getting? That's the point here. I don't care what the perceived fair value is for Garland, it doesn't make any sense for TO to grab him. We already have guys who are producing at his level and make less money. Are you suggesting we replace both with Garland? Seems like 2 good depth players are better than 1 good depth player.

Looks like Sandin is the new whipping boy, no matter how good he looks he's going to be crap to so many fans who just need to **** on guys.

I do want to stress again, that Bunting is a 20 goal scorer 60 point player making a million. Why spend nearly 5 million for a guy to ride the coattails of our stars? We can find way better value than Garland.