if i were you id keep beck and the pick but do what you want

How long will it take for Habs fans to realize they aren't playoff contenders and there are maybe only 2-3 teams worse than them.

Jets are sitting tied for top in the central right now. They won't be moving on from their 2C, who is team controlled for at least the following season, for futures.

To be fair, I am perfectly fine with keeping the pick, I am just tired of all the PLD back and forth and thought I would work with the biggest critic of PLD trades to Montreal to come up with a trade that is fair for both sides so maybe we can put the debate to bed. Also given the fact that Winnipeg is 1st in their division it's unlikely they want to part with him yet either. This is more of a what it would cost IF it happened type of ACGM

Habs fans have to choose whether the team is rebuilding or contending. You can't be half pregnant.

exaclty. yes the habs may have success rn but its def not sustainable, mostly due to having a long rest and eventually they'll be back as a bottom 8 team.

Read above response to similar comments. I agree with you we should focus on rebuilding and the Jets are in 1st in their division so it's unlikely a PLD trade even happens this year.

Yes, that is true, the Yotes, Blackhawks, and Sens, right?

The Yotes, Blackhawks, Ducks, Sharks, and Blue Jackets.

As we discussed earlier, the framework of the deal works, but it is unlikely the Jets would place any value on an LD prospect.

Only stuck Struble in as a placeholder for comments on what piece would be best suited

Awful trade for Montreal. Beck is not being moved, neither is a first-round pick. We can literally sign this guy as a UFA. BE PATIENT MAN

Reallllly don't want to lose Beck but if its for getting Dubois, you got to do it.

I think the Habs are a little ahead of their rebuild with some of their players play this year so Im kind of ok trading their 1st as long as its not top 5. IMHO

Habs fan dont have to choose anything since they opinion on the matter is irrelevant to the direction the team actually takes.

Second to the other point 100% Beck is not getting moved, he was the best looking forward at the development camp and looked solid through preseason games, he and hutson are looking like they may be massive steals from this past draft. Theres simply no need to do this Dubois doesnt chance anything for mtl, except in this case potentially hurt them for the future if thats the package. And thats not saying the package isnt fair value, just makes no sense for mtl to do it.

The kids will get tired by 40 games in as they never played that many games and 3 or 4 in a week. They will tank in the 2nd half of the season. Injuries, trades and kids etc. the Titanic is headed for the iceberg

Simple question why would we pay more than Dach ?? I mean I love Dubois and he is a better 2 way center than Dach, but the ceiling is something else. A late first and B prospect should be fine for Dubois, higher than that and we could regret it!

Let's be honest first here, Winnipeg is absolutely not trading Dubois while they are in the playoff picture and Montreal is not trading for Dubois when we are outside of the playoff chase. Now Dubois is one of the top (I would say 50 maybe even 25) centers in the league as such he would absolutely get a 1st with top 10 protection ++ in this draft.

I think at the beginning of the season there were no real expectations from the team.

Standouts like Guhle and Xhekaj, Dach finding his role, and looking like he might live up to his draft expectations, and Salf looking capable of playing at the NHL level all bode well for Montreal.

What was looking like a 4-5 year rebuild might have the possibility of being expedited into 1-3 years.

Goaltending is an issue, and getting a more sustainable option at 1RD could have this team competing for wildcard/playoff spots sooner than later.

Obviously a couple of draft picks in 2023, Heineman and Ylonen both look ready to fill in for Drouin/Dadonov (or Hoffman if they can dump him)

PLD is the last thing they should be focusing on, he's a FA add in 2 years assuming that role hasn't already been filled internally by Dach moving to C or a rookie (Beck, Mysak, Mesar, Kidney)

You wanna bet that opinion of fans matter?

It might be a shorter rebuild but I wouldn't count on that. I would tell the kids to take their time and to enjoy playing and learning. In the meantime they're giving us a very exciting show and for the moment it's all that matters.

Absolutely, there's no pressure, and St-Louis letting them develop their instincts and talent is only a great thing for the future.

Arguably they aren't far off, they need a legit 2C assuming they are keeping Dach on 1RW. Then it's back to getting a goalie to 1A/1B with Allen, and getting a 1RD from somewhere.

2023 pick has to stay, because Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Yager, Dvorsky, Ritchie and Smith can all fill that possible role.

Absolutely it matters.... it's why Montreal drafted that bust Leblanc in Montreal to satisfy the French-Canadian fans and media.

Big splash, bigger bust.

Could've had Kreider and he would've taken out Lundqvist in Bizarro-world.

Isn't that what teams do, getting their rebuild down to 1-3 years then start moving picks and prospects for younger more established players to fill those last 2 or 3 holes and become a playoff team for a 5 year period? (not what I think we should do just saying it is normally what is done)

was at the draft listen to about a 1000 fans outside screaming for shane wright getting habs jerseys with his name on it signed.....didnt seem to matter, Romanov was loved by a lot of habs fan that didnt seem to matter,
Whether fans think the team is in a rebuild or competing make no difference if you have a management team that actually knows what they are doing. Under Bergevin it would matter because he made decisions without ever seeming to have a plan, but new management seems more then willing to move forward how they see fit.

Exactly the point.