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Équipe: 2022-23 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 9 nov. 2022
Publié: 9 nov. 2022
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  1. Duhaime, Brandon
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9 nov. 2022 à 23 h 18
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Who the F*** is Duhaime and why on earth do you wanna trade for him?

Some BUF have completely lost their marbles on Mitts.

They were drafted in the same draft class.
Player 1: 8G 12A
Player 2: 35G 53A

What a great tweak.
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9 nov. 2022 à 23 h 22
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Minnesota trade looks good. Kunin isn't worth 2 ends and Hinostroza though
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9 nov. 2022 à 23 h 30
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Quoting: worldwidesensei
Who the F*** is Duhaime and why on earth do you wanna trade for him?

Some BUF have completely lost their marbles on Mitts.

They were drafted in the same draft class.
Player 1: 8G 12A
Player 2: 35G 53A

What a great tweak.


208 games| 35g 53a 88p| -50 |77 hits: skilled top 6 forward
90 games| 8g 12a 20p (46 over 208 games)| +/- 0 |226 hits (502 over 208 games): checking line forward
Comparing apples to oranges and the orange still looks better in context
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9 nov. 2022 à 23 h 39
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208 games| 35g 53a 88p| -50 |77 hits: skilled top 6 forward
90 games| 8g 12a 20p (46 over 208 games)| +/- 0 |226 hits (502 over 208 games): checking line forward
Comparing apples to oranges and the orange still looks better in context


Sure....let's trade a top-6 player for a checking line forward....Makes perfect sense to me.
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9 nov. 2022 à 23 h 40
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Sure....let's trade a top-6 player for a checking line forward....Makes perfect sense to me.


Top 6 player that can't produce in the top 6 and is clearly a bust
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9 nov. 2022 à 23 h 47
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Top 6 player that can't produce in the top 6 and is clearly a bust


Your hatred for him is out of this world. He's 112th in points among Fs this year.

Too small of a sample size? In the past 41 team games, he's 130th.

Let's do some math:
32* 3 = 96
96+ 32 = 128
128+32 = 160

So, not only is he producing at a top-6 level...he's top-5.
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9 nov. 2022 à 23 h 57
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Top 6 player that can't produce in the top 6 and is clearly a bust


Scrolls all the way to the bottom of the last 41GP...

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20212022&thruseason=20222023&stype=2&sit=all&score=all&stdoi=std&rate=n&team=ALL&pos=F&loc=B&toi=0&gpfilt=gpteam&fd=&td=&tgp=41&lines=single&draftteam=ALL

We've got Mitts at 130th
Duhaime at 382nd

Solid tweak. That's bottom of the barrel 4th line. (96 x 4 = 384)
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10 nov. 2022 à 0 h 33
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Quoting: worldwidesensei
Scrolls all the way to the bottom of the last 41GP...

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20212022&thruseason=20222023&stype=2&sit=all&score=all&stdoi=std&rate=n&team=ALL&pos=F&loc=B&toi=0&gpfilt=gpteam&fd=&td=&tgp=41&lines=single&draftteam=ALL

We've got Mitts at 130th
Duhaime at 382nd

Solid tweak. That's bottom of the barrel 4th line. (96 x 4 = 384)
Casey is also Buffalo's best FO center.
Not trading him for a 2nd!
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10 nov. 2022 à 1 h 53
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Quoting: worldwidesensei
Scrolls all the way to the bottom of the last 41GP...

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20212022&thruseason=20222023&stype=2&sit=all&score=all&stdoi=std&rate=n&team=ALL&pos=F&loc=B&toi=0&gpfilt=gpteam&fd=&td=&tgp=41&lines=single&draftteam=ALL

We've got Mitts at 130th
Duhaime at 382nd

Solid tweak. That's bottom of the barrel 4th line. (96 x 4 = 384)


Quoting: gretzkyghosts
Casey is also Buffalo's best FO center.
Not trading him for a 2nd!


Really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Mitts won't break 35 points this year
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10 nov. 2022 à 2 h 14
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Really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Mitts won't break 35 points this year


He's on pace for 50.5. Are you okay? But, sure let's trade Mitts for a player that has 20 career points. LOL.
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10 nov. 2022 à 2 h 27
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Quoting: worldwidesensei
Scrolls all the way to the bottom of the last 41GP...

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20212022&thruseason=20222023&stype=2&sit=all&score=all&stdoi=std&rate=n&team=ALL&pos=F&loc=B&toi=0&gpfilt=gpteam&fd=&td=&tgp=41&lines=single&draftteam=ALL

We've got Mitts at 130th
Duhaime at 382nd

Solid tweak. That's bottom of the barrel 4th line. (96 x 4 = 384)


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Casey is also Buffalo's best FO center.
Not trading him for a 2nd!


Quoting: Shibbal18
Really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Mitts won't break 35 points this year


You're wrong, the scores don't show anything at all, he can play some good games, get some minor assists, but the metrics show he sucks, that's just a fact. Instead, Quinn is back in the press box, who got fewer chances than Mitts, Quinn, who never got many PP chances and didn't play Thompson, Skinner, Tuch, or Cozens.

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10 nov. 2022 à 2 h 32
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You're wrong, the scores don't show anything at all, he can play some good games, get some minor assists, but the metrics show he sucks, that's just a fact. Instead, Quinn is back in the press box, who got fewer chances than Mitts, Quinn, who never got many PP chances and didn't play Thompson, Skinner, Tuch, or Cozens.

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1. Who is wrong?
2. Perhaps Quinn is in the press box because he needs to develop
3. Why do people insist on showing 5v5 stats only?
4. Why does Granato play Mitts more than Quinn? Are you saying you would be a better coach?

#1 on the PP in pts/60? Mitts
#1 on the PK in GA/60? Mitts.
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10 nov. 2022 à 2 h 34
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1. Who is wrong?
2. Perhaps Quinn is in the press box because he needs to develop
3. Why do people insist on showing 5v5 stats only?
4. Why does Granato play Mitts more than Quinn? Are you saying you would be a better coach?

#1 on the PP in pts/60? Mitts
#1 on the PK in GA/60? Mitts.


You're wrong. Here are the metrics, Mitts is bad. Our PP sucks. Granato is not God, he can also make mistakes. Mitts is heavily overrated.
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10 nov. 2022 à 2 h 36
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but the metrics show he sucks, that's just a fact.


He's 28th in the league in PP pts/60....yea, nice fact.

On the PK...he's 10th in the league in CF%.

I think you are confusing facts...for....opinions?
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10 nov. 2022 à 2 h 38
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You're wrong. Here are the metrics, Mitts is bad. Our PP sucks. Granato is not God, he can also make mistakes. Mitts is heavily overrated.


Our PP sucks? We're scoring at a 24% rate on the PP...league average is 22.
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10 nov. 2022 à 2 h 43
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He's 28th in the league in PP pts/60....yea, nice fact.

On the PK...he's 10th in the league in CF%.

I think you are confusing facts...for....opinions?


It doesn't pass the eye test and it doesn't pass the metrics test, that's enough for me. Hopefully Adams trades him in for some defensive help or some other deal soon.
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10 nov. 2022 à 2 h 53
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It doesn't pass the eye test and it doesn't pass the metrics test, that's enough for me. Hopefully Adams trades him in for some defensive help or some other deal soon.


He won't because you're wrong.
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10 nov. 2022 à 3 h 28
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Sharks accept (pretty easily).
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10 nov. 2022 à 5 h 42
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Any word on if Johnson is gonna sign with Buffalo?

I remember he looked really good at the world juniors a couple years ago, lots of guys look good at that tourney and never amount to much though.
10 nov. 2022 à 6 h 10
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Any word on if Johnson is gonna sign with Buffalo?

I remember he looked really good at the world juniors a couple years ago, lots of guys look good at that tourney and never amount to much though.


No one knows...not even Johnson. He likes BUF, had a great development camp. He might feel like he is blocked by Dahlin, Power and Samuelsson. He probably feels like BUF sucks.

BUF's success, or lack thereof, maybe be the deciding factor. Or whether he wants to spend the next 3+ years in BUF.

If he's smart, I think he signs...but no one knows.
10 nov. 2022 à 6 h 54
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Sharks accept (pretty easily).


Doubt they move Simek with how good he's been and our lack of nhl defensemen
10 nov. 2022 à 8 h 21
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Quoting: worldwidesensei
Your hatred for him is out of this world. He's 112th in points among Fs this year.

Too small of a sample size? In the past 41 team games, he's 130th.

Let's do some math:
32* 3 = 96
96+ 32 = 128
128+32 = 160

So, not only is he producing at a top-6 level...he's top-5.


Point production isn’t everything
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10 nov. 2022 à 9 h 34
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He's on pace for 50.5. Are you okay? But, sure let's trade Mitts for a player that has 20 career points. LOL.


He is "on pace", season isn't 12 games long though
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10 nov. 2022 à 10 h 15
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He is "on pace", season isn't 12 games long though


That's why I used a 41 game sample....but you think 20 career points is somehow better than your projected less than 35 points smile))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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10 nov. 2022 à 10 h 17
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Point production isn’t everything


No kidding. Are you trying to tell me Duhaime is better than Mittelstadt?
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