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Yamo and PJ gone Defence retool

Créé par: ceeque84
Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 8 nov. 2022
Publié: 8 nov. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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EDM
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
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  1. Broberg, Philip
  2. Foegele, Warren
  3. Savoie, Carter
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
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EDM
  1. Geekie, Morgan
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (COL)
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EDM
  1. Dumba, Matt (3 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Hartman, Ryan
MIN
  1. Barrie, Tyson
  2. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
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8 nov. 2022 à 8 h 17
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What does that do for Minnesota?
8 nov. 2022 à 8 h 26
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That might get Chychrun but there is no way Minnesota would ever consider that deal.
8 nov. 2022 à 8 h 35
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
What does that do for Minnesota?


Admittedly not alot. I actually meant to make the pick a 2nd rnd. But it does provide them with a slightly cheaper option on RD for next yr while their young guys percolate some more, because I dont see them resigning Dumba. And if PJ could benefit from a change of scenery, this trade could turn out to be a win for Minny.
8 nov. 2022 à 8 h 42
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Admittedly not alot. I actually meant to make the pick a 2nd rnd. But it does provide them with a slightly cheaper option on RD for next yr while their young guys percolate some more, because I dont see them resigning Dumba. And if PJ could benefit from a change of scenery, this trade could turn out to be a win for Minny.


Regardless of whether they decide to extend Dumba or not you are still trying to value a winger with a career high of 36 points to a center with career high of 65 points. That should instantly block the trade
8 nov. 2022 à 9 h 0
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Minnesota declines. They aren't trading dumba or Hartman to take on cap dump Tyson berry and also take on Jesse
8 nov. 2022 à 9 h 2
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Admittedly not alot. I actually meant to make the pick a 2nd rnd. But it does provide them with a slightly cheaper option on RD for next yr while their young guys percolate some more, because I dont see them resigning Dumba. And if PJ could benefit from a change of scenery, this trade could turn out to be a win for Minny.


Minnesota isn't taking on cap dump when they have Brock faber and bunch of top d prospects coming in. You forget Minnesota cap situation and didn't pay for your cap dump. You also didn't pay for dumba or Hartman
8 nov. 2022 à 9 h 36
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Minnesota isn't taking on cap dump when they have Brock faber and bunch of top d prospects coming in. You forget Minnesota cap situation and didn't pay for your cap dump. You also didn't pay for dumba or Hartman


At this point Barrie is a better player than Dumba. Dumba's numbers this yr so far are atrocious. Barrie is a perennial 40 point dman and also played defensively well in the playoffs last yr & has started off decent this yr, playing 20+ minutes a night- Barrie is not a cap dump. The only thing making this trade unfair for Minny is Hartman going the otherway for essentially just PJ, and i agree that is unfair, a higher pick would definitely have to be added.
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8 nov. 2022 à 9 h 40
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Minny is in cap Hell because of those buy outs....for them to move a cheap multi year deal like Hartzy it would take a kings ransom.
8 nov. 2022 à 9 h 43
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Minnesota declines. They aren't trading dumba or Hartman to take on cap dump Tyson berry and also take on Jesse


Barrie is not a cap dump, especially when compared to Dumba.
Dumba:
2019-20 NHL 69 6 18 24 -7 41 | PLAYOFFS 4 0 1 1 1 2
2020-21 NHL 51 6 15 21 1 46 | PLAYOFFS 7 1 2 3 -1 17
2021-22 NHL 57 7 20 27 9 47 | PLAYOFFS 6 1 0 1 4 2
2022-23 NHL 11 0 2 2 -5 11
Barrie
2019-20 NHL 70 5 34 39 -7 16 | PLAYOFFS 5 0 0 0 -2 2
2020-21 NHL 56 8 40 48 4 10 | PLAYOFFS 4 0 1 1 1 0
2021-22 NHL 73 7 34 41 3 18 | PLAYOFFS 16 1 4 5 2 10
2022-23 NHL 13 1 7 8 7 6
8 nov. 2022 à 12 h 32
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Barrie is not a cap dump, especially when compared to Dumba.
Dumba:
2019-20 NHL 69 6 18 24 -7 41 | PLAYOFFS 4 0 1 1 1 2
2020-21 NHL 51 6 15 21 1 46 | PLAYOFFS 7 1 2 3 -1 17
2021-22 NHL 57 7 20 27 9 47 | PLAYOFFS 6 1 0 1 4 2
2022-23 NHL 11 0 2 2 -5 11
Barrie
2019-20 NHL 70 5 34 39 -7 16 | PLAYOFFS 5 0 0 0 -2 2
2020-21 NHL 56 8 40 48 4 10 | PLAYOFFS 4 0 1 1 1 0
2021-22 NHL 73 7 34 41 3 18 | PLAYOFFS 16 1 4 5 2 10
2022-23 NHL 13 1 7 8 7 6


Dumba contract is done after this year, so yeah Barry is a cap dump Minnesota won't take on
8 nov. 2022 à 12 h 33
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Barrie is not a cap dump, especially when compared to Dumba.
Dumba:
2019-20 NHL 69 6 18 24 -7 41 | PLAYOFFS 4 0 1 1 1 2
2020-21 NHL 51 6 15 21 1 46 | PLAYOFFS 7 1 2 3 -1 17
2021-22 NHL 57 7 20 27 9 47 | PLAYOFFS 6 1 0 1 4 2
2022-23 NHL 11 0 2 2 -5 11
Barrie
2019-20 NHL 70 5 34 39 -7 16 | PLAYOFFS 5 0 0 0 -2 2
2020-21 NHL 56 8 40 48 4 10 | PLAYOFFS 4 0 1 1 1 0
2021-22 NHL 73 7 34 41 3 18 | PLAYOFFS 16 1 4 5 2 10
2022-23 NHL 13 1 7 8 7 6


Barrie is absolutely a cap dump. Trade him elsewhere then because you have zero appreciation of Minnesota cap. Minnesota will keep dumba and you can keep Tyson Barry and his bad defense/ cap / contract
8 nov. 2022 à 12 h 35
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At this point Barrie is a better player than Dumba. Dumba's numbers this yr so far are atrocious. Barrie is a perennial 40 point dman and also played defensively well in the playoffs last yr & has started off decent this yr, playing 20+ minutes a night- Barrie is not a cap dump. The only thing making this trade unfair for Minny is Hartman going the otherway for essentially just PJ, and i agree that is unfair, a higher pick would definitely have to be added.


Dude yoi again fail to recognize dumba's worth or that he's a free agent Minnesota can easily get high 2nd or late 1st for. Again, MIN isn't taking on your crappy player/ contract. Go dump him on someone else
8 nov. 2022 à 15 h 51
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At this point Barrie is a better player than Dumba. Dumba's numbers this yr so far are atrocious. Barrie is a perennial 40 point dman and also played defensively well in the playoffs last yr & has started off decent this yr, playing 20+ minutes a night- Barrie is not a cap dump. The only thing making this trade unfair for Minny is Hartman going the otherway for essentially just PJ, and i agree that is unfair, a higher pick would definitely have to be added.


Puljujarvi is being paid 3M and is on pace for 13 points on what is currently the team that is 3rd in goals for per game. At this rate, he doesnt get extended a qualifying offer. Until he picks up his production, hes worth next to nothing.
8 nov. 2022 à 20 h 16
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Minnesota declines for the reasons mentioned above. That being said, we appreciate the offer. Apologies for the negativity from other users. I have no idea why folks get so upset at trade proposals, especially new ones. smile
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Dude yoi again fail to recognize dumba's worth or that he's a free agent Minnesota can easily get high 2nd or late 1st for. Again, MIN isn't taking on your crappy player/ contract. Go dump him on someone else


Bro, dumba isn’t worth a high 2nd or late 1st. His contract is expiring and he’s been awful.
12 nov. 2022 à 14 h 4
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Bro, dumba isn’t worth a high 2nd or late 1st. His contract is expiring and he’s been awful.


Worse player have . So your wrong
13 nov. 2022 à 10 h 57
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Bro, dumba isn’t worth a high 2nd or late 1st. His contract is expiring and he’s been awful.


Wrong, again
13 nov. 2022 à 12 h 51
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Wrong, again


Explain why you say that he is worth more than Barries Puljujarvi and a 3rd
13 nov. 2022 à 14 h 12
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Explain why you say that he is worth more than Barries Puljujarvi and a 3rd


Because barriers is a cap dump. Pul isn't good. Dumba has 0 year left and at deadline If Minnesota is out, Minnesota can trade hom easily for late 1st.
13 nov. 2022 à 15 h 11
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Because barriers is a cap dump. Pul isn't good. Dumba has 0 year left and at deadline If Minnesota is out, Minnesota can trade hom easily for late 1st.


Puljujarvi isn’t not good. He just hasn’t proved yet. Dumba isn’t going for a late first. His contract is expiring. This guy isn’t like Morgan Rielly or Jacob Chychrun. Dumba could go for a first but not with his expiring contract.
13 nov. 2022 à 16 h 37
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Puljujarvi isn’t not good. He just hasn’t proved yet. Dumba isn’t going for a late first. His contract is expiring. This guy isn’t like Morgan Rielly or Jacob Chychrun. Dumba could go for a first but not with his expiring contract.


Yeah he absolutely can
14 nov. 2022 à 16 h 56
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Yeah he absolutely can


Nah bro, This isn’t 2016-17-2017-18 Dumba we’re talking about. We’re talking about 2022-23 Dumba. The mans broken 25 points 4 times in his 10 year career and they were by slim margins. He’s got a -5 in +/-, 22 hits and 19 penalty minutes, a 4.76 S%. He’s on pace for 15 damn points. This player isn’t worth a 1st round pick. At least, not anymore.
14 nov. 2022 à 17 h 30
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Nah bro, This isn’t 2016-17-2017-18 Dumba we’re talking about. We’re talking about 2022-23 Dumba. The mans broken 25 points 4 times in his 10 year career and they were by slim margins. He’s got a -5 in +/-, 22 hits and 19 penalty minutes, a 4.76 S%. He’s on pace for 15 damn points. This player isn’t worth a 1st round pick. At least, not anymore.


Right because all people care About is points. Rhd are coveted no Matter what you think. His defense has beyond improve, abd his contract is expiring. Ben c got a 2nd last deadline. Get out of here with thus bs. Edmonton paid a 2nd and good prospect/ player for 8th d from Montreal
14 nov. 2022 à 17 h 33
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Minnesota declines. They aren't trading dumba or Hartman to take on cap dump Tyson berry and also take on Jesse


Barrie is a perennial 50 point RHD who is on pace for 60+ this year. He regularly wins his minutes and has had a positive impact on 5v5 goal share in 9 of 10 recent seasons (including this one). He's not a cap dump.
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14 nov. 2022 à 17 h 34
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Barrie is a perennial 50 point RHD who is on pace for 60+ this year. He regularly wins his minutes and has had a positive impact on 5v5 goal share in 9 of 10 recent seasons (including this one). He's not a cap dump.


Barrie is absolutely a cap dump. It's amazing how Edmonton fans try to dump him on other teams fans and get mad when called out
 
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