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Need for Top D over Offence

Créé par: jassan28
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 4 nov. 2022
Publié: 4 nov. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2956 000 $
2975 000 $
79 000 000 $
33 000 000 $
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43 500 000 $
1800 000 $
1775 000 $
33 000 000 $
21 750 000 $
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Bedard, Connor
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OTT
  1. Cizikas, Casey
  2. Dobson, Noah
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
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  1. Formenton, Alex [Droits de RFA]
  2. Gambrell, Dylan [Droits de RFA]
  3. Norris, Joshua
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OTT
ARI
  1. Zaitsev, Nikita
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
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Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Bedard, Connor
975 000 $975 000 $
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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UFA - 5
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8 350 000 $8 350 000 $
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UFA - 8
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4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
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UFA - 4
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2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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RFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
UFA - 4
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863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
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775 000 $775 000 $
C, AG
UFA
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG
UFA - 1
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $
G
RFA - 1
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
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800 000 $800 000 $
DG
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4 nov. 2022 à 0 h 54
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Ottawa isn't trading Norris ever, and New York isn't trading Dobson ever.

Cizikas makes no sense for Ottawa, he's not more valuable than Kastelic, but he's way more expensive.

Zub will get at least 4.5. The Sens have had a rough start but there's no chance they end up with Bedard.

At worst, they finish 22nd.
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4 nov. 2022 à 0 h 57
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Ottawa isn't trading Norris ever, and New York isn't trading Dobson ever.

Cizikas makes no sense for Ottawa, he's not more valuable than Kastelic, but he's way more expensive.

Zub will get at least 4.5. The Sens have had a rough start but there's no chance they end up with Bedard.

At worst, they finish 22nd.


With Pinto looking like a Calder finisher, Stutzle and Pinto have emerged as the clear 1-2 centers for the team and Norris is also another elite center. That has Oilers with 3 top centers and DeBrincat, Giroux, Batherson, Tkachuk, Motte, Joseph, Formenton, Greig, Boucher for wing. Left Defence is perfect with Chabot and Sanderson as the 1-2 but right Defence has nothing special and can't contend with the top teams of the league. Where do they make the change to address the issue without creating a hole somewhere else in the roster? I agree with Norris being pretty elite but 3 centers was the reason I placed him on that trade.
4 nov. 2022 à 1 h 8
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Isles decline. They wouldn’t consider this
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4 nov. 2022 à 1 h 23
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With Pinto looking like a Calder finisher, Stutzle and Pinto have emerged as the clear 1-2 centers for the team and Norris is also another elite center. That has Oilers with 3 top centers and DeBrincat, Giroux, Batherson, Tkachuk, Motte, Joseph, Formenton, Greig, Boucher for wing. Left Defence is perfect with Chabot and Sanderson as the 1-2 but right Defence has nothing special and can't contend with the top teams of the league. Where do they make the change to address the issue without creating a hole somewhere else in the roster? I agree with Norris being pretty elite but 3 centers was the reason I placed him on that trade.


First of all I'd have to see more than 10 games of Pinto to make a move like this. If he finishes the year with, say, 65 points then I'd consider making a big move. The thing is New York is never trading Dobson so this is just unrealistic.
4 nov. 2022 à 7 h 49
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I understand the importance of Dobson on the Islanders and he is a star defenceman number 1 Defenceman. Josh Norris averaged almost 44 goals in a full season last year at 22 years old signed for his career until 2030 at less than 8 million. An Islanders team desperately needing offence in a defence-heavy team has Ryan Pulock and Scott Mayfield on the right side. Adem Pelech and Alex Romanov are brilliant for the left side. On offence outside of Barzal in the center position, Brock Nelson is 31, Cizikas is not ready for the number 2 center role and same goes with Pageau. Josh Norris will fetch an elite return from another team but Islanders are in need of an offensive center more than ever and Dobson would only make it work from the perspective of both sides.


Nelson leads the isles in points this season with 13 points in 11 games. Hes better than Norris. He has 42 goals in his last 82 games. The isles top prospect is also a center who will be taking over the 2C role from Nelson in a few years
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4 nov. 2022 à 10 h 41
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This is the best value I've seen for Dobson, but it's not happening.
4 nov. 2022 à 18 h 26
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Sens can't afford to trade Norris. The current season is in jeopardy because he's injured

And if you want to piss off Brady Tkachuk, then trade his best buddy

Also, for the love of Alfie, stop proposing Alex Formenton in ACGMS. He is NOT a NHL player right now and might never be again.

He is NOT going to be traded now. He either has ZERO value or way more than people are assuming

Think how Isles fans saw Beauvillier value when he was 22 or even Wahlstrom now
4 nov. 2022 à 19 h 23
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Sens can't afford to trade Norris. The current season is in jeopardy because he's injured

And if you want to piss off Brady Tkachuk, then trade his best buddy

Also, for the love of Alfie, stop proposing Alex Formenton in ACGMS. He is NOT a NHL player right now and might never be again.

He is NOT going to be traded now. He either has ZERO value or way more than people are assuming

Think how Isles fans saw Beauvillier value when he was 22 or even Wahlstrom now


Wingers in general (unless they are superstars) don’t have great market value as of right now. Wahlstrom might return a late 1st or a 2nd + prospect but if you offered even a 1st and a prospect the isles wouldn’t do it because he’s too important to the success of the team.
5 nov. 2022 à 19 h 53
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Wingers in general (unless they are superstars) don’t have great market value as of right now. Wahlstrom might return a late 1st or a 2nd + prospect but if you offered even a 1st and a prospect the isles wouldn’t do it because he’s too important to the success of the team.


Same for Formenton. He has NOT been for trade, before or after the TC allegations. He is a heck of a hockey player, what a waste of a career that would be
 
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