Don't think Edmonton has a big enough hole in roster to justify spending multiple firsts. Probably get that return from someone just not gonna be Holland.

fletchers best return is going to be like a second for provorov retained lol

I like Provorov, I am nowhere near his biggest hater. But, I don't know about that return honestly. I agree with the person who said its probably not EDM to do this since they have Nurse. I'd be more looking at like LAK, DET, maybe even ANA. But I also wonder, is he really worth two 1sts? Then again, Seth Jones got two 1sts. For TK, if you think Pelletier would be as good as TK to put him there, then why would Calgary do this move? Why don't they save the cap and just use Pelletier? I think the return is fine in a vacuum but for their sake, they are trying to win now and good talent on ELC realllllllly helps. Finally, what is this Flyers team's goal in your eyes? I would say with the moves you made, they're looking to win the division. Is that the right plan? They have been surprising us so far this year. Why Horvat at LW and not Gauthier? They are a natural C and LW respectively.

Thankfully, Fletcher is gone after this year....inb4 extension

Provorov at $3.75M x 2 would be a great get for 2LD, as both Kulak and Broberg can play on the right side. But you're right, the price is steep and the Oilers aren't desperate. Dubas would likely pay that price if he's still around by the deadline. He throws around 1sts like they're Halloween candy.

"But, I don't know about that return honestly. I agree with the person who said its probably not EDM to do this since they have Nurse. I'd be more looking at like LAK, DET, maybe even ANA. But I also wonder, is he really worth two 1sts? "

With roughly 50% retention I'd say he is. With the retention he is more valuable than Chychrun at this point, and would be a huge addition to a team looking to contend that needs blue line help.

"For TK, if you think Pelletier would be as good as TK to put him there, then why would Calgary do this move? Why don't they save the cap and just use Pelletier?"

I don't think Pelletier is nearly as good as Konecny right now, I didn't even put him in the top-6. I don't think you'll find a better winger on the market for under 3 million AAV with term unless you were to luck out and get a player performing at that level on an ELC, which is highly unlikely.

" Finally, what is this Flyers team's goal in your eyes?"

The goal is to load up on as much draft capital for the 2023 draft as possible, while maintaining as competitive of an environment as possible for younger players to grow in, all while not completely obliterating the cap space structure of the team. This draft is something special, and I believe any team that loads up on picks for this one gives themselves the opportunity to expedite a rebuild/retool by multiple years if they make the right picks.

"Why Horvat at LW and not Gauthier? They are a natural C and LW respectively."

The Flyers intention is for Gauthier to be a C for the organization long term. I think having him play LW in his draft year, C in his draft+1 year, and then move him back to LW in his rookie season would be poor for his development. In this scenario, I signed Horvat because he has experience at LW and C. Ideally he'd fill in at LW on this roster, but with 2 U20 Centers in the lineup I think it'd be wise to have another guy on the roster who has experience playing a top-6 C role, if for no other reason than positive mentorship

Interesting. I guess the biggest question to me is: why would all these other teams help the Flyers out so much in getting the draft capital? Yes, they get those players back, but we've seen teams be cautious with the 2023 draft especially (Tampa and Florida being only contenders currently without their 2023 first, Dallas has top 10 protection on theirs). I think I agree with your explained logic of them getting these 1sts in terms of value for value, but I am less sure of a team wanting to make those moves right now to be completely honest. I know he's been injured but look at all the Chychrun flirtation, and how his term would get Arizona more value....well he's still there. And I think especially since the cap is such an issue, teams are a little nervous right now. These are teams that are trying to win now, but I just think maybe its too rich for them.

I think my biggest contention is really this: if you're going to sign Horvat for almost 8 million, Dumba for 6, Soucy for 4, while you still have the Coots sad injury and Ellis being Ellis...why not just keep TK and Provorov? They are younger, still have some term, and if the team plays as decent as they have with Tortorella so far (and likely a new GM) don't they keep you in at least the same if not better cap situation as those guys, while being at least 2-3 years younger? Then if you do want to get rid of them as they become UFA after 2025 they can be more easily moved?