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Créé par: Zmach
Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 31 oct. 2022
Publié: 31 oct. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
66 000 000 $
22 500 000 $
13 500 000 $
22 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1775 000 $
1775 000 $
Transactions
MTL
  1. Barrie, Tyson
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2286 000 000 $85 080 000 $850 000 $1 500 000 $920 000 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 6
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12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance650 000 $$650K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
RFA - 2
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 1
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
775 000 $775 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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762 500 $762 500 $
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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762 500 $762 500 $
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 1

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31 oct. 2022 à 13 h 33
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Easy pass by Montreal.
31 oct. 2022 à 13 h 42
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Barrie is a no go for MTL, idk why people seem to think habs want him but no.
31 oct. 2022 à 13 h 42
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Evans alone at $1.7M for 3 years is worth more than a 3rd. Dumping Barrie for 2 years also comes at a price. For reference, dumping Monahan (1x$6.3M) cost a 1st to Calgary.

You may want to revisit your offer.
31 oct. 2022 à 13 h 52
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Quoting: VladislavTretiak
Evans alone at $1.7M for 3 years is worth more than a 3rd. Dumping Barrie for 2 years also comes at a price. For reference, dumping Monahan (1x$6.3M) cost a 1st to Calgary.

You may want to revisit your offer.


there are 2 years here.
31 oct. 2022 à 13 h 53
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Quoting: VladislavTretiak
Evans alone at $1.7M for 3 years is worth more than a 3rd. Dumping Barrie for 2 years also comes at a price. For reference, dumping Monahan (1x$6.3M) cost a 1st to Calgary.

You may want to revisit your offer.


Barrie isn't a dump.
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31 oct. 2022 à 13 h 54
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Barrie isn't a dump.


No problem. Then trade him to another team and come back when you have cap space.
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there are 2 years here.


Yes, 2 years @ $4.5M/year = $9M
31 oct. 2022 à 13 h 56
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Barrie is a no go for MTL, idk why people seem to think habs want him but no.


Edmonton is legitimately scouting Jake Evans for a trade involving Barrie.
31 oct. 2022 à 13 h 57
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Quoting: VladislavTretiak
Yes, 2 years $4.5M/year = $9M


Barrie will have 1 Year left this takes place next offseason.

Jake evans has 2 years remaining.
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Quoting: VladislavTretiak
No problem. Then trade him to another team and come back when you have cap space.


I didn't make this trade. I'd gladly keep Barrie over Evans. I don't think Edmonton needs a 4C so badly.
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31 oct. 2022 à 13 h 58
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Barrie will have 1 Year left this takes place next offseason.


Montreal would need to carry his contract for this year as well as next year. That's two.
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I didn't make this trade. I'd gladly keep Barrie over Evans. I don't think Edmonton needs a 4C so badly.


Edmonton wants a right shot center for faceoffs.
31 oct. 2022 à 13 h 59
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Montreal would need to carry his contract for this year as well as next year. That's two.


This whole team takes place in the future.
31 oct. 2022 à 14 h 2
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Edmonton wants a right shot center for faceoffs.

So, a Derek Ryan replacement. That shouldn't cost Barrie + 3rd.

FYI Ryan is a lot better at faceoffs, just bring him back at $775k.
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31 oct. 2022 à 14 h 3
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This whole team takes place in the future.


Some people can read dates apparently. Perhaps "23-24" is spelled differently in French? awesome face
31 oct. 2022 à 14 h 9
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Barrie isn't a dump.


Monahan was less of a dump than Barrie.

"Dumping" Barrie will cost at least a 1st this year, maybe a 2nd if it's done next summer and he only have 1 year left.
31 oct. 2022 à 14 h 18
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This whole team takes place in the future.


Unless Montreal was a contender with an anemic PP, there is no point from time the 2023 cup is awarded to the 2024 trade deadline that this trade would make sense for Montreal.
31 oct. 2022 à 14 h 30
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Monahan was less of a dump than Barrie.

"Dumping" Barrie will cost at least a 1st this year, maybe a 2nd if it's done next summer and he only have 1 year left.

Barrie is a perennial 50 point RHD who had a net positive effect in 8 of the past 9 years, and is doing it again this season. There aren't any other defensemen in the league who can say the same for less than Barrie's $4.5M.
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31 oct. 2022 à 14 h 32
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Edmonton is legitimately scouting Jake Evans for a trade involving Barrie.


dont see any logically reason MTL would move Evans where the main piece coming back is Barrie. Edmonton can be scouting, but Barrie is a 3rd for evans would be a mistake for montreal.
31 oct. 2022 à 15 h 35
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Barrie is a perennial 50 point RHD who had a net positive effect in 8 of the past 9 years, and is doing it again this season. There aren't any other defensemen in the league who can say the same for less than Barrie's $4.5M.


Barrie is a small 31 years old 3rd pairing D with alot of defensive issues on a 4.5M contract.
31 oct. 2022 à 15 h 47
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Barrie is a small 31 years old 3rd pairing D with alot of defensive issues on a 4.5M contract.

He's played top-4 all his life and his defensive issues are vastly overblown. He's been a positive contributor in 8 if his past 9 years and is doing so again this year (6-3 goals at 5v5 so far). He's not a cap dump.
31 oct. 2022 à 15 h 50
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Barrie is a perennial 50 point RHD who had a net positive effect in 8 of the past 9 years, and is doing it again this season. There aren't any other defensemen in the league who can say the same for less than Barrie's $4.5M.


That's certainly not true based on what I've seen. Its certainly not true based on his sheltered usage and truly awful defensive and net 5v5 impacts.
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I'm willing to spend Barrie and a 2nd round pick for Evans.
31 oct. 2022 à 15 h 54
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Barrie is a small 31 years old 3rd pairing D with alot of defensive issues on a 4.5M contract.


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That's certainly not true based on what I've seen. Its certainly not true based on his sheltered usage and truly awful defensive and net 5v5 impacts.

He absolutely is outscoring this season - he's 6-3 on-ice goals so far at 5v5. It's a tiny sample size, but when viewed against the backdrop of the past decade of results, it's more of the same.

In 8 of the past 9 seasons, and again so far this year, Barrie's teams have had a better 5v5 GF% when he was on the ice compared to when he was on the bench. That's a "net positive" player, whether you chose to accept it or not.

Here's how much better Barrie's teams have been with him than without him:

20132014 COL: +9.58 GF%
20142015 COL: +9.91
20152016 COL: +3.05
20162017 COL: +2.96
20172018 COL: +5.26
20182019 COL: +4.73
20192020 TOR: -1.60
20202021 EDM: +4.77
20212022 EDM: +6.27
20222023 EDM: +18.84
31 oct. 2022 à 15 h 56
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I'm willing to spend Barrie and a 2nd round pick for Evans.

That's an insane spend on a 4C. Montreal should take that and run.

I get that you're PC approved, but he doesn't work for the Oilers anymore and hasn't foe quite a while. Time to tune into the new administration, friend.
 
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