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Créé par: Shakabakes
Équipe: 2022-23 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 27 oct. 2022
Publié: 27 oct. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Rangers should have accrued close to $4M in Cap space by Deadline
Transactions
1.
SEA
  1. Jones, Zachary
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
2.
NYR
  1. Nyquist, Gustav (2 750 000 $ retained)
CBJ
  1. Kravtsov, Vitali
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (COL)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $83 253 969 $0 $3 700 000 $-753 969 $
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
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11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AD
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UFA - 7
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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3 641 667 $3 641 667 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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0 $0 $
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UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
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750 000 $750 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 525 000 $1 525 000 $
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
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Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
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5 666 667 $5 666 667 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
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UFA - 4
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance50 000 $$50K)
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
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800 000 $800 000 $
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UFA - 1

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27 oct. 2022 à 17 h 48
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Rangers should have cap space, but if they have to pay bonuses, they might be dipping into next years cap.
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27 oct. 2022 à 18 h 18
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Rangers should have cap space, but if they have to pay bonuses, they might be dipping into next years cap.


So you are talking about performance bonuses?
27 oct. 2022 à 18 h 20
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So you are talking about performance bonuses?


Yes.
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27 oct. 2022 à 19 h 4
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If CBJ's would do that trade, the Rangers should take it in a heartbeat.
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27 oct. 2022 à 19 h 10
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If CBJ's would do that trade, the Rangers should take it in a heartbeat.


I was hesitant to throw Kravtsov in a trade this early on. But considering the player and retention, I thought it was in the ballpark for both teams.
27 oct. 2022 à 19 h 14
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Kravstov is interesting, but CBJ already are low on F spots as is.

If Kravstov’s issue with NYR is lack of playing time, I’m not sure CBJ will be much better for him.
27 oct. 2022 à 19 h 51
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Kravstov is interesting, but CBJ already are low on F spots as is.

If Kravstov’s issue with NYR is lack of playing time, I’m not sure CBJ will be much better for him.


What position are you looking for in a trade?
27 oct. 2022 à 20 h 22
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At the rate at which guys are getting injured from cheap shots, they wont have anywhere near 4M cap space come TDL....If Reaves' purpose isn't to deter these cheap shots- exactly what is his purpose on the roster at 1.75M?
27 oct. 2022 à 20 h 34
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What position are you looking for in a trade?


CBJ need T6 Cs and T4 RDs, prefereably defensive ones.
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27 oct. 2022 à 20 h 59
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CBJ need T6 Cs and T4 RDs, prefereably defensive ones.


T4 RD is Schneider but he is untouchable
T6 C is Chytil and could be had to alleviate cap crunch next year, so trade involving a younger cheaper center for 3c

I know Sillinger is local so probably untouchable.
Any chance you would let Johnson go if Chytil was in the trade, if so what is a good deal to you?
27 oct. 2022 à 21 h 50
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I would take it as a cbj fan. Krav is young enough to audition for a spot for the future. If he doesn’t work out so be it we get a third if he does then it’s the fleece of the tdl
27 oct. 2022 à 21 h 57
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T4 RD is Schneider but he is untouchable
T6 C is Chytil and could be had to alleviate cap crunch next year, so trade involving a younger cheaper center for 3c

I know Sillinger is local so probably untouchable.
Any chance you would let Johnson go if Chytil was in the trade, if so what is a good deal to you?


Literally none. Less than none, even.
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27 oct. 2022 à 22 h 2
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Literally none. Less than none, even.


Is a T6 C a priority as stated above? If so, how do you expect to get one?
27 oct. 2022 à 22 h 53
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Is a T6 C a priority as stated above? If so, how do you expect to get one?


Kent Johnson is the most untouchable player on the team.
27 oct. 2022 à 23 h 28
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Kent Johnson is the most untouchable player on the team.


Sure, you mentioned that already. Wanted to know what CBJ is in the market for. Most younger centers are untouchable.
28 oct. 2022 à 7 h 49
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At the rate at which guys are getting injured from cheap shots, they wont have anywhere near 4M cap space come TDL....If Reaves' purpose isn't to deter these cheap shots- exactly what is his purpose on the roster at 1.75M?


I am all for moving Reaves at the TDL for alleviating Cap issues.

Don't know if it would ever happen, since Gallant definitely favors Reaves more than others. But the guy really doesn't offer much anymore, and was benched in the Playoffs for a reason.
28 oct. 2022 à 7 h 51
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Kravstov is interesting, but CBJ already are low on F spots as is.

If Kravstov’s issue with NYR is lack of playing time, I’m not sure CBJ will be much better for him.


He's had 2 different injury issues early on (head shot and then hyper extended his arm). They are giving him playing time, he just isn't staying on the ice.
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28 oct. 2022 à 9 h 4
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Is a T6 C a priority as stated above? If so, how do you expect to get one?


VAN has been putting together ACGM’s trading Horvat to CBJ. Usually for a package built around Boqvist. Guy like Horvat could be a good fit as a 1C/2C with Sillinger or Roslovic. Not to mention, Johnson himself still has a shot at C, it’ll just take time to see if he can play there.
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28 oct. 2022 à 11 h 1
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VAN has been putting together ACGM’s trading Horvat to CBJ. Usually for a package built around Boqvist. Guy like Horvat could be a good fit as a 1C/2C with Sillinger or Roslovic. Not to mention, Johnson himself still has a shot at C, it’ll just take time to see if he can play there.


Those are some pricey packages in AGM. I didn't realize that CBJ was playing in the high-end rental market, but if you can afford to resign him then it could be worth it.
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28 oct. 2022 à 11 h 12
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I am all for moving Reaves at the TDL for alleviating Cap issues.

Don't know if it would ever happen, since Gallant definitely favors Reaves more than others. But the guy really doesn't offer much anymore, and was benched in the Playoffs for a reason.


takes 2 to tango - I just don't know anyone who's going to be jumping at the chance to trade for a 36 year old Reavo at the deadline.
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28 oct. 2022 à 11 h 45
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Those are some pricey packages in AGM. I didn't realize that CBJ was playing in the high-end rental market, but if you can afford to resign him then it could be worth it.


We can afford it; he’d presumptively come packaged with an extension.

I’d rather move Boqvist and a protected 1st or 2nd for Horvat + 8 than I would KJ for a Chytil package.
28 oct. 2022 à 11 h 47
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takes 2 to tango - I just don't know anyone who's going to be jumping at the chance to trade for a 36 year old Reavo at the deadline.


It's not about anybody wanting him. Nobody actually covets the player being brought on as a Cap dump. They covet the Pick/Prospect compensation associated with taking on the player.
28 oct. 2022 à 12 h 4
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We can afford it; he’d presumptively come packaged with an extension.

I’d rather move Boqvist and a protected 1st or 2nd for Horvat + 8 than I would KJ for a Chytil package.


I don't want to trade for Horvat any more than I wanted Miller for the same reason: the opportunity cost. That's eight or more million dollars of cap for one player entering his thirties when we've already got four others making that or more. And neither Miller nor Horvat is a Gaudreau-caliber forward. Sure, they're both better than what Columbus already has right now, but let's be real, pretty much anyone is. A deal for either one of them is a boat anchor by year three when the team is actually ready to compete and some of the young players need new deals. You don't become a perennial contender with deals like that weighing you down. Let someone else pay those players.
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28 oct. 2022 à 12 h 58
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I don't want to trade for Horvat any more than I wanted Miller for the same reason: the opportunity cost. That's eight or more million dollars of cap for one player entering his thirties when we've already got four others making that or more. And neither Miller nor Horvat is a Gaudreau-caliber forward. Sure, they're both better than what Columbus already has right now, but let's be real, pretty much anyone is. A deal for either one of them is a boat anchor by year three when the team is actually ready to compete and some of the young players need new deals. You don't become a perennial contender with deals like that weighing you down. Let someone else pay those players.


You ain’t wrong. The issue for me is either (a) we don’t make any moves, and we bide our time to let the young guys develop - I.e. see if KJ can be a 1C/2C with Silly, let Marchenko and (hopefully) Chinny develop into T6 guys, at the expense of not being competitive for the next 1-2 years; or (b) we make a move for a guy like Horvat to be a 1C/2C with KJ or Silly, and try to speed up the timeline to compete.

The way this team is constructed, they aren’t a playoff team. And I’m fine with that if we are going to commit to giving the young guys time to play! But if we are trying to compete, we need more right now. Trading from a positive of excess (RD) to shore up a position of weakness (C) I think helps. I think making a move for Connor Murphy at RD could be equally beneficial, and wouldn’t cost much. Boqvist is jsut feeling more like a square peg being put in a round hole in Cbus.

We’d also have to see, but I don’t think Horvat ages like Miller’s. He’s four years younger, should (at worst) cost the same, and we are looking at a rapid rise in the cap in 1-2 years, right when Jake is off the books.

FWIW, this isn’t a hill I’m dying on. Just seeing enough trades on here that have me intrigued. And we know Jarmo isn’t afraid to roll the dice on a big move.
28 oct. 2022 à 13 h 43
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You ain’t wrong. The issue for me is either (a) we don’t make any moves, and we bide our time to let the young guys develop - I.e. see if KJ can be a 1C/2C with Silly, let Marchenko and (hopefully) Chinny develop into T6 guys, at the expense of not being competitive for the next 1-2 years; or (b) we make a move for a guy like Horvat to be a 1C/2C with KJ or Silly, and try to speed up the timeline to compete.

The way this team is constructed, they aren’t a playoff team. And I’m fine with that if we are going to commit to giving the young guys time to play! But if we are trying to compete, we need more right now. Trading from a positive of excess (RD) to shore up a position of weakness (C) I think helps. I think making a move for Connor Murphy at RD could be equally beneficial, and wouldn’t cost much. Boqvist is jsut feeling more like a square peg being put in a round hole in Cbus.

We’d also have to see, but I don’t think Horvat ages like Miller’s. He’s four years younger, should (at worst) cost the same, and we are looking at a rapid rise in the cap in 1-2 years, right when Jake is off the books.

FWIW, this isn’t a hill I’m dying on. Just seeing enough trades on here that have me intrigued. And we know Jarmo isn’t afraid to roll the dice on a big move.


He's already invested significant cap and term into the literal worst defenseman in the league. At the moment, I don't particularly trust Jarmo's judgment on signing contracts. Agree that Boqvist just isn't a fit here. There has to be a team who needs a right handed offensive defenseman.
 
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