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Larkin

Créé par: mart
Date de création initiale: 26 oct. 2022
Publié: 26 oct. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Transactions
OTT
  1. Larkin, Dylan
  2. Seider, Moritz
DET
  1. Hamonic, Travis
  2. Joseph, Mathieu
  3. Norris, Joshua
  4. Zaitsev, Nikita
  5. Choix de 2023 ronde en 1e (OTT)
  6. Choix de 2024 ronde en 2e (WSH)
Détails additionnels:
Top 10 protected
Rachats de contrats
  • Bobby Ryan: 1 833 333 $
  • Colin White: 875 000 $
  • Michael Del Zotto: 500 000 $
  • Dion Phaneuf: 354 167 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Matt Murray: 1 562 500 $ (25%)
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2182 500 000 $66 944 881 $0 $4 875 000 $15 555 119 $
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Tkachuk, Brady
8 205 714 $
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Stützle, Tim
925 000 $
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Batherson, Drake
4 975 000 $
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UFA - 5
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DeBrincat, Alex
6 400 000 $
AG, AD
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Larkin, Dylan
6 100 000 $
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UFA - 1
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Giroux, Claude
6 500 000 $
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NMC
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Brassard, Derick
750 000 $
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Pinto, Shane
925 000 $
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Motte, Tyler
1 350 000 $
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Kelly, Parker
762 500 $
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Kastelic, Mark
821 667 $
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Watson, Austin
1 500 000 $
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Chabot, Thomas
8 000 000 $
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UFA - 6
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Seider, Moritz
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 2
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Forsberg, Anton
2 750 000 $
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Sanderson, Jake
925 000 $
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Zub, Artem
2 500 000 $
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Hellberg, Magnus
750 000 $
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Holden, Nick
1 300 000 $
DG
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UFA - 1
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Brännström, Erik
900 000 $
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Gambrell, Dylan
950 000 $
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Talbot, Cam
3 666 667 $
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26 oct. 2022 à 19 h 14
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Forgot Raymond too
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26 oct. 2022 à 19 h 16
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Lol this wouldn't be close if Josh norris was healthy
26 oct. 2022 à 19 h 17
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Ridiculous doesn't even begin to properly describe this post
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26 oct. 2022 à 19 h 22
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I am at a loss for words on this one.
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26 oct. 2022 à 19 h 25
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Modifié 26 oct. 2022 à 19 h 43
laugh laugh An injured Norris who's more than likely out for the season, 3 worthless scrubs that add 0 value to our team. And a 1st and 2nd round pick for our Captain and high end elite RHD in Seider. Yeah when hell freezes over and Arizona actually becomes relevant.

You'd need to offer us a 1st round pick just for us to take your scrubs off of your hands in Joseph, Hamonic and Zaitsev. Let alone adding 2 more 1st round picks one for both Larkin and Seider.

Larkin with an extension = Norris+Ottawa's 2023 1st round pick+Ottawa's 2024 2nd round pick at the very worst.

Moritz Seider > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josepth+Hamonic+Zaitsev. Come dude this isn't worth our time
26 oct. 2022 à 19 h 27
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A new record for worst trade ever. applaud

This isn't even a good troll post.
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26 oct. 2022 à 19 h 38
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I'm a Sens fan and this is the most ridiculous thing I've seen all day.
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26 oct. 2022 à 19 h 59
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This trade is even more amazing when you consider the best player coming back from Ottawa, Norris, is now out for the season with a shoulder injury lol
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26 oct. 2022 à 20 h 0
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It’s hard to say if there’s a single player on OTT that’s in the same discussion as Mo Seider TBH.
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26 oct. 2022 à 20 h 4
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It’s hard to say if there’s a single player on OTT that’s in the same discussion as Mo Seider TBH.


Half a dozen easy, maybe more, overvaluing players does not make them Makars or McDavids
26 oct. 2022 à 20 h 5
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Half a dozen easy, maybe more, overvaluing players does not make them Makars or McDavids


Name names because it’s not Tkachuk, DeBrinkat or Pinto for sure. Norris isn’t making a case from the hospital bed. Batherson isn’t the same tier. Chabot maybe, but doesn’t keep healthy. Stutzle had a good year but is already a stretch to live up to that contract already
26 oct. 2022 à 20 h 7
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laugh laugh An injured Norris who's more than likely out for the season, 3 worthless scrubs that add 0 value to our team. And a 1st and 2nd round pick for our Captain and high end elite RHD in Seider. Yeah when hell freezes over and Arizona actually becomes relevant.

You'd need to offer us a 1st round pick just for us to take your scrubs off of your hands in Joseph, Hamonic and Zaitsev. Let alone adding 2 more 1st round picks one for both Larkin and Seider.

Larkin with an extension = Norris+Ottawa's 2023 1st round pick+Ottawa's 2024 2nd round pick at the very worst.

Moritz Seider > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josepth+Hamonic+Zaitsev. Come dude this isn't worth our time


i agree that the trade is bad... but cmon its not as bad as you're making it sound.

Norris = Larkin with an extension. Larkin was slightly better last year but Norris is a decent bit younger and will be making slightly less than Larkin if he gets an extension (i would assume it would be 8x8?)
however everything else is really bad. Zaitsev + 1st = nothing, Hamonic = 5th maybe, Joseph = 2nd. 2 2nds and a 5th doesn't get Seider
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26 oct. 2022 à 20 h 11
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Detroit declines
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26 oct. 2022 à 20 h 13
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laugh laugh An injured Norris who's more than likely out for the season, 3 worthless scrubs that add 0 value to our team. And a 1st and 2nd round pick for our Captain and high end elite RHD in Seider. Yeah when hell freezes over and Arizona actually becomes relevant.

You'd need to offer us a 1st round pick just for us to take your scrubs off of your hands in Joseph, Hamonic and Zaitsev. Let alone adding 2 more 1st round picks one for both Larkin and Seider.

Larkin with an extension = Norris+Ottawa's 2023 1st round pick+Ottawa's 2024 2nd round pick at the very worst.

Moritz Seider > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josepth+Hamonic+Zaitsev. Come dude this isn't worth our time


ROFL larkin is not, remotely close worth a 1st+Norris, who is comparable and will be on a better contract, is 3 years younger.
26 oct. 2022 à 20 h 14
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Quoting: zk97
i agree that the trade is bad... but cmon its not as bad as you're making it sound.

Norris = Larkin with an extension. Larkin was slightly better last year but Norris is a decent bit younger and will be making slightly less than Larkin if he gets an extension (i would assume it would be 8x8?)
however everything else is really bad. Zaitsev + 1st = nothing, Hamonic = 5th maybe, Joseph = 2nd. 2 2nds and a 5th doesn't get Seider


Get real Norris by himself doesn't get Larkin with an extension, Now you are grossly overvaluing Norris who has had one decent season so far. And who is out for the season with an shoulder injury.
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ROFL larkin is not, remotely close worth a 1st+Norris, who is comparable and will be on a better contract, is 3 years younger.


Norris is nowhere comparable to Larkin yet, Maybe down the road. but one 55 point season doesn't make a career, And Norris got his deal coming out of his ELC Larkin could've taken the same deal in Detroit as Norris but took less. Of course Larkin is going to get far more money as his next contract is all UFA years which always cost more.
26 oct. 2022 à 20 h 57
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Half a dozen easy, maybe more, overvaluing players does not make them Makars or McDavids


Um, what.
26 oct. 2022 à 21 h 5
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bahahahahhahahaha this is good
26 oct. 2022 à 21 h 16
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Get real Norris by himself doesn't get Larkin with an extension, Now you are grossly overvaluing Norris who has had one decent season so far. And who is out for the season with an shoulder injury.


im being very real here, norris has had one decent season so far and we'll see what he can do with another. if an 8x8 extension is fair for larkin then norris is making close to the same, which is quite the fair contract for him, which by that logic should mean they're equal.
before you say it, no this is not implying that Jamie Benn and Adam Fox are equally good, im saying that both larkin (8x8) and norris's (8x7.95) contracts are widely viewed as fair in the moment. benn's is not and fox's is
26 oct. 2022 à 21 h 37
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im being very real here, norris has had one decent season so far and we'll see what he can do with another. if an 8x8 extension is fair for larkin then norris is making close to the same, which is quite the fair contract for him, which by that logic should mean they're equal.
before you say it, no this is not implying that Jamie Benn and Adam Fox are equally good, im saying that both larkin (8x8) and norris's (8x7.95) contracts are widely viewed as fair in the moment. benn's is not and fox's is


Larkin isn't taking anywhere near 8x8m he'd already be resigned if that were the case. it's already been reported that the Barzal deal is the minimal Larkin will take from Detroit 8x9.150m probably closer to 8x9.5m , He's looking for $10,000,000+ on the open market per the reports.
26 oct. 2022 à 21 h 48
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Larkin isn't taking anywhere near 8x8m he'd already be resigned if that were the case. it's already been reported that the Barzal deal is the minimal Larkin will take from Detroit 8x9.150m probably closer to 8x9.5m , He's looking for $10,000,000+ on the open market per the reports.


where's the reports?
26 oct. 2022 à 21 h 55
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where's the reports?


From our insiders, Dave Pagnotta mentioned it Elliotte Friedman. just google Larkin contract and it mentions what he and his agent are seeking. And it sure as hell isn't 8x8 but much higher.
 
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