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Post Norris Injury

Créé par: Claesson4Norris
Date de création initiale: 26 oct. 2022
Publié: 26 oct. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Transactions
OTT
  1. Murphy, Connor
CHI
  1. Järventie, Roby
  2. Zaitsev, Nikita
  3. Choix de 2023 ronde en 2e (OTT)
  4. Choix de 2024 ronde en 2e (WSH)
  5. Choix de 2025 ronde en 3e (OTT)
Rachats de contrats
  • Bobby Ryan: 1 833 333 $
  • Colin White: 875 000 $
  • Michael Del Zotto: 500 000 $
  • Dion Phaneuf: 354 167 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Matt Murray: 1 562 500 $ (25%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE1E RONDE2E RONDE3E RONDE4E RONDE5E RONDE6E RONDE7E RONDE
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $78 281 548 $0 $4 025 000 $4 218 452 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Tkachuk, Brady
8 205 714 $
AG
UFA - 6
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Stützle, Tim
925 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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Batherson, Drake
4 975 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
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DeBrincat, Alex
6 400 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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Brassard, Derick
750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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Giroux, Claude
6 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 3
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Motte, Tyler
1 350 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Pinto, Shane
925 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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Joseph, Mathieu
2 950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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Kelly, Parker
762 500 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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Kastelic, Mark
821 667 $
C
RFA - 1
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Watson, Austin
1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Chabot, Thomas
8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
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Zub, Artem
2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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Forsberg, Anton
2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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Sanderson, Jake
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
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Murphy, Connor
4 400 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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Hellberg, Magnus
750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Brännström, Erik
900 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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Hamonic, Travis
3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Holden, Nick
1 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Norris, Joshua
7 950 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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Gambrell, Dylan
950 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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Talbot, Cam
3 666 667 $
G
UFA - 1

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26 oct. 2022 à 17 h 30
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Would love to see some analytics on Murphy before doing this deal
26 oct. 2022 à 17 h 32
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Quoting: csick
Would love to see some analytics on Murphy before doing this deal


You ain't getting him for that, so don't waste your time
26 oct. 2022 à 17 h 32
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You ain't getting him for that, so don't waste your time


Research jarventie. You’re a casual. Jarventie and a 2nd is absolutely fair deal
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26 oct. 2022 à 17 h 33
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Is it just me or is having a 35 year old who played 19 games on a healthy season last year as our 2nd line enetr worrysome. Think we should play Pinto there, no?
26 oct. 2022 à 17 h 34
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Send Zaitsev to Belleville (like Del Zotto last season)

Then make the deal

Re-assess in the off-season. Either dump him (if cheaper) or just buy him out

The BUYOUT COST is $1,666,667, spread over 2 years too. Very cheap.

$2,833,334 in cap hit for the 1st season, $833,334 for the 2nd year.

https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/nikita-zaitsev


Quoting: SMH
You ain't getting him for that, so don't waste your time


1st + 2nd + 2nd + 3rd is not enough?

Zaitsev is of no incidence for the Hawks, they would save $ on this swap and Zaitsev would actually help with the tank.
26 oct. 2022 à 17 h 35
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Quoting: OutDoorRinkBoy
Is it just me or is having a 35 year old who played 19 games on a healthy season last year as our 2nd line enetr worrysome. Think we should play Pinto there, no?


Play Pinto as the 2C. And get a good vet 3C by trade. Or put Giroux at 2C and get them a winger
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26 oct. 2022 à 17 h 36
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Quoting: csick
Would love to see some analytics on Murphy before doing this deal


He's been stellar defensively for a long time. Was a pretty significant drag on his team's offense last year, but it wasn't reflective of his career as a whole. I think Ottawa's offense could mask his weaknesses, and they have a huge need for what he does well.
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26 oct. 2022 à 17 h 42
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Quoting: OutDoorRinkBoy
Is it just me or is having a 35 year old who played 19 games on a healthy season last year as our 2nd line enetr worrysome. Think we should play Pinto there, no?


That will happen at some point this season, but right now Brassard is fine in the role. The 1st and 3rd lines are humming this year, slipping Brassard into the 2 spot let's Ottawa avoid messing with chemistry. He's also played with Giroux last year, and he's looked fine with those two in a small sample size. Is it a long term option, no. Bur it's fine for now. Eventually Brass and Pinto swap.
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26 oct. 2022 à 18 h 34
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Quoting: Xspyrit
Send Zaitsev to Belleville (like Del Zotto last season)

Then make the deal

Re-assess in the off-season. Either dump him (if cheaper) or just buy him out

The BUYOUT COST is $1,666,667, spread over 2 years too. Very cheap.

$2,833,334 in cap hit for the 1st season, $833,334 for the 2nd year.

https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/nikita-zaitsev




1st + 2nd + 2nd + 3rd is not enough?

Zaitsev is of no incidence for the Hawks, they would save $ on this swap and Zaitsev would actually help with the tank.


Zaitsev is absolutely of incidence for the Hawks. They'd want a 1st added just to take him, come on.
26 oct. 2022 à 19 h 23
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Hawks would probably consider Zaitsev + 1st with protection + 2nd for Murphy. Davidson doesn't seem to like prospects he didn't pick.
26 oct. 2022 à 20 h 16
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OTT has no interest in Murphy
27 oct. 2022 à 14 h 14
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Quoting: DarcyTucker
Zaitsev is absolutely of incidence for the Hawks. They'd want a 1st added just to take him, come on.


"no incidence" was maybe not the right way to put it so I'll re-explain

Hawks are not going to compete in the near future, they need a full rebuild

They would be swapping a good defensive D-man for an overpaid 3rd pairing D-man who's been played above his level for way too long

Murphy is owed 17.6 M$ for 4 years, Zaitsev is only owed 7 M$ for 2 years

Yes they get worse but they save 10.6 M$ in financial engagement. Zaitsev's AAV will actually be helpful next season to reach the cap floor

For getting worse (which they might actually want), they are being compensated as follows :

Järventie, Roby : early 2nd in 2020 (33rd OA), did well in men's leagues as a teenager, dominated the last WJC, tantalizing skillset, worth a late 1st at the very least (Sens wouldn't trade him for that)
2024 2nd round pick (WSH)
2023 2nd round pick (OTT)
2025 3rd round pick (OTT)

They should absolutely RUN with that. It's a much better package than a late 1st and a 2nd for example
 
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