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26 oct. 2022 à 10 h 52
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Trade confirmed: Chicago Blackhawks - Montreal Canadiens
Détails de la transaction
Les Blackhawks de Chicago font l’acquisition de:
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Cameron Hillis · 0 $838 333 $70 000 $ (LAH/JR)
Somme: 0 $838 333 $70 000 $
Variation: 0 $
Variation: -25 000 $
Variation: 0 $
Les Canadiens de Montréal font l’acquisition de:
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Nicolas Beaudin · 0 $863 333 $70 000 $ (LAH/JR)
Somme: 0 $863 333 $70 000 $
Variation: 0 $
Variation: +25 000 $
Variation: 0 $
26 oct. 2022 à 10 h 54
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this is good for montreal but how many more lds do they need in the system
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26 oct. 2022 à 10 h 55
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Like this a lot for Montreal. Hillis is currently an ECHL player and Beaudin is a bubble NHL defensemen (for us). He already cleared waivers so have flexibility there.

Montreal tried to trade up and draft Beaudin the 2018 draft and then tried to trade for him again in 2019.
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26 oct. 2022 à 10 h 57
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this is good for montreal but how many more lds do they need in the system


Think we likely send Trudeau back to Junior and Beaudin takes his spot. Could also see us loaning Norlinder to Sweden as he hasn't worked out very well in Laval.
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26 oct. 2022 à 10 h 57
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26 oct. 2022 à 10 h 59
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26 oct. 2022 à 11 h 1
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ECHL player for AHL player

MTL wins, can't argue with that
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26 oct. 2022 à 11 h 8
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Again, I have had it with these MF left handed defensemen prospects on this MF team 😤
26 oct. 2022 à 11 h 9
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If Montreal wanted Beaudin, they could have claimed him off waivers 3 weeks ago for free.


Whether Beaudin is a former 1st round pick or whether Hillis is an ECHL player is completely irrelevant.


The Chicago Blackhawks win the trade.
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26 oct. 2022 à 11 h 12
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Quoting: sensonfire
If Montreal wanted Beaudin, they could have claimed him off waivers 3 weeks ago for free.


Whether Beaudin is a former 1st round pick or whether Hillis is an ECHL player is completely irrelevant.


The Chicago Blackhawks win the trade.

If that’s true it make no sense for MTL to have waited. At least Chicago gets a centre back
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26 oct. 2022 à 11 h 14
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Come one Kent, trade for a stay at home RHD already!

Then take Wideman out of the line up and give PP time to Harris or even Xhekaj...
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26 oct. 2022 à 11 h 18
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I thought MTL would have to sacrifice one of Ylonen or Harvey-Pinard to get him. Surprised that an ECHLer was enough.
26 oct. 2022 à 11 h 20
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Quoting: sensonfire
If Montreal wanted Beaudin, they could have claimed him off waivers 3 weeks ago for free.


Whether Beaudin is a former 1st round pick or whether Hillis is an ECHL player is completely irrelevant.


The Chicago Blackhawks win the trade.


You fail to see the advantage of getting rid of Hillis contract. MTL still has 5 spots free until the 50 contract limit, but thay could change quicky by TDL.

Anyway an ECHL player's contract is a waste of a spot.
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26 oct. 2022 à 11 h 20
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Quoting: sensonfire
If Montreal wanted Beaudin, they could have claimed him off waivers 3 weeks ago for free.


Whether Beaudin is a former 1st round pick or whether Hillis is an ECHL player is completely irrelevant.


The Chicago Blackhawks win the trade.


They really don't. Many teams trade for players who 1. already cleared waivers 2. while sending another contract back.
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26 oct. 2022 à 11 h 36
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Quoting: jpsnow13
You fail to see the advantage of getting rid of Hillis contract. MTL still has 5 spots free until the 50 contract limit, but thay could change quicky by TDL.

Anyway an ECHL player's contract is a waste of a spot.


Agreed, Hillis hasn't done much even at the ECHL level, the value of moving his contract spot was probably greater than the value of getting Beaudin off waivers for free.
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26 oct. 2022 à 11 h 39
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Montreal wins, Beaudin has more upside than Hillis though both probably won’t end up being much
26 oct. 2022 à 11 h 40
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Quoting: sensonfire
If Montreal wanted Beaudin, they could have claimed him off waivers 3 weeks ago for free.


Whether Beaudin is a former 1st round pick or whether Hillis is an ECHL player is completely irrelevant.


The Chicago Blackhawks win the trade.


By claiming him, Montreal would have had to keep him in the NHL for 30 days + risk losing him for nothing when waived, after those 30 days. On top of this, if CHI claimed him back and no other team did, he could have been sent to the minors by Chicago.

This way, Montreal makes sure he stays in their system, at the AHL level, throughout the entire 22-23 season. Also, getting rid of a contract has value for Montreal.
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26 oct. 2022 à 11 h 40
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Think we likely send Trudeau back to Junior and Beaudin takes his spot. Could also see us loaning Norlinder to Sweden as he hasn't worked out very well in Laval.


Norlinder intend to play in North America all year and he's been good so fair, he's the go-to guy for Houle this season so far
26 oct. 2022 à 11 h 46
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Quoting: capsfan2121
this is good for montreal but how many more lds do they need in the system


My thoughts exactly.

Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Like this a lot for Montreal. Hillis is currently an ECHL player and Beaudin is a bubble NHL defensemen (for us). He already cleared waivers so have flexibility there.

Montreal tried to trade up and draft Beaudin the 2018 draft and then tried to trade for him again in 2019.


How does clearing waivers work in regards to timing. So Beaudin cleared waivers once. How long does that last or if he gets called up to NHL and then needs to be sent down to AHL again does that mean he needs to clear again? Thanks.
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26 oct. 2022 à 11 h 53
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Chances are both guys never amount to anything so the idea of someone winning is kind of self fulfilling. Hillis is better than ECHL status but probably nothing more than a AHL'er. Beaudin has some higher upside but I don't think he'll ever realize on it. This is both teams taking a swing but not expecting much.
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26 oct. 2022 à 12 h 8
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Quoting: jpsnow13
You fail to see the advantage of getting rid of Hillis contract. MTL still has 5 spots free until the 50 contract limit, but thay could change quicky by TDL.

Anyway an ECHL player's contract is a waste of a spot.


Quoting: SevenLeg
They really don't. Many teams trade for players who 1. already cleared waivers 2. while sending another contract back.


Quoting: exeko123
By claiming him, Montreal would have had to keep him in the NHL for 30 days + risk losing him for nothing when waived, after those 30 days. On top of this, if CHI claimed him back and no other team did, he could have been sent to the minors by Chicago.

This way, Montreal makes sure he stays in their system, at the AHL level, throughout the entire 22-23 season. Also, getting rid of a contract has value for Montreal.


Placing a player on waivers is an admission by his team that said player no longer has any trade value to that team.


If nobody claims him, that player's trade value is wiped out.


Determining which team wins a trade is really that simple.


Also, I see that the Habs' fanbase is out in full force today, which probably explains why the vote is lopsided.


And why I'm being bombarded with all these comments popcorn
26 oct. 2022 à 12 h 20
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Quoting: sensonfire
Placing a player on waivers is an admission by his team that said player no longer has any trade value to that team.


If nobody claims him, that player's trade value is wiped out.


Determining which team wins a trade is really that simple.


Also, I see that the Habs' fanbase is out in full force today, which probably explains why the vote is lopsided.


And why I'm being bombarded with all these comments popcorn


You're being bombarded with all these comments because your logic is plain dumb.

Hillis is an NHL contract in the ECHL, which says a lot. There aren't many of those and they're usually the product of a team handing NHL contract to one of their mid-round picks too soon. It's far from a positive asset, it's a wasted contract spot that would have 100% cleared waivers was he eligible this year. The fact that you're saying an AHL vs ECHL swap is a loss is beyond saving.
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26 oct. 2022 à 12 h 31
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Quoting: SevenLeg
You're being bombarded with all these comments because your logic is plain dumb.

Hillis is an NHL contract in the ECHL, which says a lot. There aren't many of those and they're usually the product of a team handing NHL contract to one of their mid-round picks too soon. It's far from a positive asset, it's a wasted contract spot that would have 100% cleared waivers was he eligible this year. The fact that you're saying an AHL vs ECHL swap is a loss is beyond saving.


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26 oct. 2022 à 12 h 32
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I'm very happy for Beaudin. He needs more ice time and wasn't going to get it with the Rockford Ice Hogs. I don't have any inside information, but if you just connect the dots...I'm sure this trade was requested by Beaudin because he was likely being sent to the Indy Fuel...aka...ECHL.

I'm a bit surprised Hillis is coming back, but it doesn't really matter. Neither likely makes an impact, BUT Beaudin has a chance.

MTL fans may not believe this, but this reminds me of Danault. When Danault was sent to MTL he was awful for the Hawks and not even really playing well in the AHL at the time either. I hope Beaudin take FULL advantage.

***Edit*** Evan Barrett on the move too. Looks like the Ice Hogs are doing a bit of house cleaning.
26 oct. 2022 à 12 h 43
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first round pick traded for a guy from the same draft class that's in the echl

it's like stan bowman never left, warms my heart
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