Stay the course

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Créé par: ItsBlowTime

Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver

Date de création initiale: 24 oct. 2022

Publié: 25 oct. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

- Fire sale rebuild only works if you're GUARANTEED to draft Bedard. Too Risky.

- Retool is ongoing, just hasn't been done right.

-Stay the course and address the RIGHT PIECES.

ARI gets 15ovr pick in Lekkerimaki (1st rd asset), Flippable deadline player in Horvat (worth 1st rd asset + more) and Hoglander (not quite 1st rd, but arguably more valuable than Hayton).

Canucks get top RHD for Hughes signed for VERY good contract for 3 more years and essentially take the pressure off. With 3mil in space, cap going up about 3+mil AND Myers coming off book in 2yrs. They're finally in control.

Transactions

VAN

ARI

Höglander, Nils
Horvat, Bo
Lekkerimäki, Jonathan [Liste de réserve]

Rachats de contrats

Braden Holtby: 1 900 000 $
Jake Virtanen: 500 000 $

Enfoui

Riley Stillman: 225 000 $ (1 350 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
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2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	79 356 250 $	1 250 000 $	1 782 500 $	3 143 750 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Kuzmenko, Andrei 950 000 $950 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, AD UFA - 1	Pettersson, Elias 7 350 000 $7 350 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Podkolzin, Vasily 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 2
Mikheyev, Ilya 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 4	Miller, J.T. 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1	Boeser, Brock 6 650 000 $6 650 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Pearson, Tanner 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Åman, Nils 883 750 $883 750 $ (82 500 $$82K) C RFA - 2	Garland, Conor 4 950 000 $4 950 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 4
Joshua, Dakota 825 000 $825 000 $ AG UFA - 2		Lazar, Curtis 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AD, C UFA - 3
	Hayton, Barrett 1 775 000 $1 775 000 $ C, AG RFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Hughes, Quinn 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ DG UFA - 5	Chychrun, Jakob 4 600 000 $4 600 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 3	Demko, Thatcher 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G UFA - 4
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver 7 260 000 $7 260 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 5	Myers, Tyler 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Martin, Spencer 762 500 $762 500 $ G UFA - 2
Rathbone, Jack 850 000 $850 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Schenn, Luke 850 000 $850 000 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Lockwood, William 750 000 $750 000 $ AD UFA - 1	Dermott, Travis 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Ferland, Micheal 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1
Dowling, Justin 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1		Poolman, Tucker 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DD UFA - 3
Burroughs, Kyle 750 000 $750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

25 oct. 2022 à 16 h 40

SellTheTeam

I hate this team

Rejoint: juin 2022

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chychrun is a LD and cannot play RD that well

25 oct. 2022 à 16 h 41

DefenseFirst

Rejoint: août 2022

Messages: 5,519

Mentions "j'aime": 1,528

1. Chychrun is a LD
2. This definitely doesn’t move the needle for arizona. They’re not going to want to take a package where they just have to move a guy again instantly.
3. This is not staying the course.
4. This team still isn’t good.

25 oct. 2022 à 16 h 47

delneggs

Rejoint: mai 2018

Messages: 3,629

Mentions "j'aime": 1,515

No where near enough for Arizona to trade him, not with the contract he has.

25 oct. 2022 à 16 h 49

editor9999

ALL HAIL KING LOUI

Rejoint: sept. 2020

Messages: 1,390

Mentions "j'aime": 111

Chychrun is overrated imo.

25 oct. 2022 à 16 h 58

ItsBlowTime

Démarrer sujet

Rejoint: janv. 2018

Messages: 653

Mentions "j'aime": 185

Quoting: vapodz

chychrun is a LD and cannot play RD that well

Source?

Quoting: delneggs

No where near enough for Arizona to trade him, not with the contract he has.

Then he'll never be moved.

Quoting: DefenseFirst

-He can play RD
-He's not worth much more than this
-if by not staying the course you mean not what current management would do, I agree
-It's better than before the trade.

25 oct. 2022 à 17 h 0

DefenseFirst

Rejoint: août 2022

Messages: 5,519

Mentions "j'aime": 1,528

Quoting: ItsBlowTime

Source?

Then he'll never be moved.

-He can play RD
-He's not worth much more than this
-if by not staying the course you mean not what current management would do, I agree
-It's better than before the trade.

He sucks at RD. Source is watching hockey.
He’s worth so much more than that.
Better? Maybe. Still stinks though.

25 oct. 2022 à 17 h 24

delneggs

Rejoint: mai 2018

Messages: 3,629

Mentions "j'aime": 1,515

Quoting: ItsBlowTime

Source?

Then he'll never be moved.

Source? How about common sense? The guy is 24 and has a great team friendly contract for 3 years and lots of teams would be after him......LOTS.....therefore, the price would be steep, a lot higher than what you offered.

-He can play RD
-He's not worth much more than this
-if by not staying the course you mean not what current management would do, I agree
-It's better than before the trade.

25 oct. 2022 à 18 h 44

ItsBlowTime

Démarrer sujet

Rejoint: janv. 2018

Messages: 653

Mentions "j'aime": 185

Quoting: delneggs

Quoting: DefenseFirst

He sucks at RD. Source is watching hockey.
He’s worth so much more than that.
Better? Maybe. Still stinks though.

If he's so good why hasn't he been traded yet? Yotes wanted 4 first rd assets and got nowhere. Lowered it to three and still no takers. Horvat, Lekkerimaki, and Hoglander are well worth it imo

25 oct. 2022 à 18 h 49

DefenseFirst

Rejoint: août 2022

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Quoting: ItsBlowTime

If he's so good why hasn't he been traded yet? Yotes wanted 4 first rd assets and got nowhere. Lowered it to three and still no takers. Horvat, Lekkerimaki, and Hoglander are well worth it imo

What? According to who? I don’t think any of that was real.

The coyotes have all the time int he world. Ask for the moon, if no one gives it they have multiple years to work out a trade.

25 oct. 2022 à 18 h 50

#10

delneggs

Rejoint: mai 2018

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Quoting: ItsBlowTime

If he's so good why hasn't he been traded yet? Yotes wanted 4 first rd assets and got nowhere. Lowered it to three and still no takers. Horvat, Lekkerimaki, and Hoglander are well worth it imo

Could say the same thing about JT last year. How did that work out? But the differences are: 1. Chychrun plays D, 2. he is 24, and 3. he has a team friendly contract for 3 years including this season. HUGE differences from JT's situation last season and the reason he will get more than what you offered. Canucks over valued JT and now you are undervaluing Chychrun plus you added in Barrett to the trade. No chance AZ accepts that.

25 oct. 2022 à 20 h 4

#11

MoSeider53

Future Norris guy

Rejoint: août 2022

Messages: 15,407

Mentions "j'aime": 8,543

That's not getting Chychrun, You're not even in the ballpark for what Bill Armsrong is asking for.

And FYI Chychrun is a LD not a RD. And no he sucks playing RD.

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