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Créé par: nmstars31
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 24 oct. 2022
Publié: 25 oct. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NSH)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (NSH)
NSH
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni (2 500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Team and compensation subject to change
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
COL
  1. Drouin, Jonathan (2 750 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Team and compensation subject to change
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
OTT
  1. Monahan, Sean (3 187 500 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Team and compensation subject to change (assuming Norris is out for a while)
4.
MTL
  1. Korpisalo, Joonas
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Allen, Jake (1 437 500 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Team and compensation subject to change
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $69 172 499 $1 132 500 $5 277 500 $13 327 501 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 4
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 3
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance507 500 $$508K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 3

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25 oct. 2022 à 12 h 56
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Montreal is not trading Jake Allan, he was just extended. Also you can only retain on 3 contracts at any one time.
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25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 5
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Monahan and drouin getting that kind of return is a little crazy.
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25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 18
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
Monahan and drouin getting that kind of return is a little crazy.


a healthy Monahan can get that return - Drouin would have to explode to do so.
25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 22
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a healthy Monahan can get that return - Drouin would have to explode to do so.


A healthy monahan has sucked the last two years. Think a 3rd. With retention.
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25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 32
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Hard pass on Drouin
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25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 33
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Would need to be really bad lucked with injuries for Ottawa wanting to do that.
25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 40
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
A healthy monahan has sucked the last two years. Think a 3rd. With retention.


I don't agree with you... Healthy Monahan the way he played so far would fetch a late 1st or a very high 2nd... not only a 3rd like you state.
Drouin, with 50% retain might get a 3 rd if we are very lucky and play better than he did the past few years.
Dodonov ? Allen trade are simply NO SENSE
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25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 40
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
A healthy monahan has sucked the last two years. Think a 3rd. With retention.


Dude was coming back from two hip injuries... define healthy my friend.
25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 42
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Quoting: DomCholette
I don't agree with you... Healthy Monahan the way he played so far would fetch a late 1st or a very high 2nd... not only a 3rd like you state.
Drouin, with 50% retain might get a 3 rd if we are very lucky and play better than he did the past few years.
Dodonov ? Allen trade are simply NO SENSE


“I don’t agree with you, now let me completely change the talking point.”

Last. Two. Years. I don’t really care about five games to start the season. Happens all the time. You think NHL GMs are just going to forget the last two years? Maybe if he keeps this up until the deadline, someone takes a chance, and throws a 2nd+.
Quoting: MTLaveragefan
Dude was coming back from two hip injuries... define healthy my friend.

Healthy enough to play. He just sucked.
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25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 43
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Quoting: Lancebmx
Montreal is not trading Jake Allan, he was just extended. Also you can only retain on 3 contracts at any one time.


Good point, I just assumed everyone who was UFA was gone.
25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 45
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“I don’t agree with you, now let me completely change the talking point.”

Last. Two. Years. I don’t really care about five games to start the season. Happens all the time. You think NHL GMs are just going to forget the last two years? Maybe if he keeps this up until the deadline, someone takes a chance, and throws a 2nd+.

Healthy enough to play. He just sucked.


the guy was clearly not at 100% - anyway - I imagine this post assumes that Monahan maintains this pace and quality of play until TD. If he does - he would get that kind of return... but again - it's too early to tell after 5 games.
25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 46
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
A healthy monahan has sucked the last two years. Think a 3rd. With retention.


A healthy Monahan is a .6 ppg 25 goal scorer. He's only 28 and is bouncing back after being unable to sleep due to so much pain in prior years. $3M in cap retention is worth like a 3rd alone.
25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 50
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
the guy was clearly not at 100% - anyway - I imagine this post assumes that Monahan maintains this pace and quality of play until TD. If he does - he would get that kind of return... but again - it's too early to tell after 5 games.


Keeping up that pace is so outlandishly unrealistic i don’t think it’s even worth considering.

Who is 100% during an NHL season. Can’t blame injuries forever.
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25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 51
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Quoting: nmstars31
A healthy Monahan is a .6 ppg 25 goal scorer. He's only 28 and is bouncing back after being unable to sleep due to so much pain in prior years. $3M in cap retention is worth like a 3rd alone.

Well then, he must have been real banged up the last three seasons, because he hasn’t touched that.
He was healthy enough to play. 8 goals, and 10 goals in the last two seasons, respectively. Healthy scratch, and healthy scratch in the playoffs.

He sucked.
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25 oct. 2022 à 14 h 4
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Well then, he must have been real banged up the last three seasons, because he hasn’t touched that.
He was healthy enough to play. 8 goals, and 10 goals in the last two seasons, respectively. Healthy scratch, and healthy scratch in the playoffs.

He sucked.


How do you explain going from 82 pts to 48 pts in one season?

He suddently stopped playing like he did the year before... just because he sucks?

2014-15 Calgary Flames NHL 81 31 31 62 12 8 11 3 3 6 2
2015-16 Calgary Flames NHL 81 27 36 63 18 -6
2016-17 Calgary Flames NHL 82 27 31 58 20 -1 4 4 1 5 0
2017-18 Calgary Flames NHL 74 31 33 64 24 3 -- -- -- -- --
2018-19 Calgary Flames NHL 78 34 48 82 12 7 5 1 1 2 0
2019-20 Calgary Flames NHL 70 22 26 48 25 -16 10 2 6 8 2
2020-21 Calgary Flames NHL 50 10 18 28 10 -6
2021-22 Calgary Flames NHL 65 8 15 23 24 -15 -- -- -- -- --
2022-23 Montreal Canadiens NHL 6 2 2 4 4 2
25 oct. 2022 à 14 h 6
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
How do you explain going from 82 pts to 48 pts in one season?

He suddently stopped playing like he did the year before... just because he sucks?

2014-15 Calgary Flames NHL 81 31 31 62 12 8 11 3 3 6 2
2015-16 Calgary Flames NHL 81 27 36 63 18 -6
2016-17 Calgary Flames NHL 82 27 31 58 20 -1 4 4 1 5 0
2017-18 Calgary Flames NHL 74 31 33 64 24 3 -- -- -- -- --
2018-19 Calgary Flames NHL 78 34 48 82 12 7 5 1 1 2 0
2019-20 Calgary Flames NHL 70 22 26 48 25 -16 10 2 6 8 2
2020-21 Calgary Flames NHL 50 10 18 28 10 -6
2021-22 Calgary Flames NHL 65 8 15 23 24 -15 -- -- -- -- --
2022-23 Montreal Canadiens NHL 6 2 2 4 4 2


Players regress all the time. Why were the flames playing him if he wasn’t healthy?
25 oct. 2022 à 14 h 9
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
Players regress all the time. Why were the flames playing him if he wasn’t healthy?


bad coaching, bad management, 6M cap space, player's will - limited minutes on the fourth line.

Plenty of factor - maybe still better at 80% than the available replacement.
25 oct. 2022 à 14 h 12
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Hard pass on Drouin


Replace Drouin with Xhekaj and its a deal
25 oct. 2022 à 14 h 13
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bad coaching, bad management, 6M cap space, player's will - limited minutes on the fourth line.

Plenty of factor - maybe still better at 80% than the available replacement.


So the flames are just completely incompetent in your eyes?
It took a first round pick to move him, so it sort of sounds like you’re saying all GMs are stupid and you know better.
25 oct. 2022 à 14 h 40
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Columbus has 3 NHL goaltenders already; they aren't going to be in the market for another unless multiple big injuries happen.
25 oct. 2022 à 15 h 57
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
Monahan and drouin getting that kind of return is a little crazy.


Dadonov too.
25 oct. 2022 à 16 h 10
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Easy no for the Avs.
25 oct. 2022 à 16 h 35
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CBJ say no, though I officially prefer "Team and Compensation Subject to Change" to "Any team."
 
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