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Équipe: 2022-23 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 25 oct. 2022
Publié: 25 oct. 2022
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25 oct. 2022 à 12 h 24
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Why r u still posting these horrendous Mayfield offers? Jesus H Christ what a joke!
25 oct. 2022 à 12 h 25
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Also Calgary couldn’t afford bailey next year anyway — and I can’t imagine why they would want to
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25 oct. 2022 à 12 h 37
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I am genuinely unsure, but I think you can do better with Mayfield.

Leafa decline. They have zero need for a bottom 6 forward.

I am not a Flames fan and Calgary could use a top 9 forward, but I suspect Bailey is not who they would be interested in even with retention.
25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 33
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Quoting: Isles5513
Why r u still posting these horrendous Mayfield offers? Jesus H Christ what a joke!


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I am genuinely unsure, but I think you can do better with Mayfield.

Honestly, what is he doing that he should get more than a 3rd and a prospect from any team? 16 mins avg ice time and 3 mins of that on the pk? He's a 3rd pair, 5-6 defenseman with a sub 40 Corsi. Depth pick up for any team is great but beyond that...
25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 36
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Quoting: Isles5513
Why r u still posting these horrendous Mayfield offers? Jesus H Christ what a joke!


I like Mayfield but how much is he worth exactly?

This offer is worth 2nd + 3rd

What would need to be added?
25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 45
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Quoting: CMac66
Honestly, what is he doing that he should get more than a 3rd and a prospect from any team? 16 mins avg ice time and 3 mins of that on the pk? He's a 3rd pair, 5-6 defenseman with a sub 40 Corsi. Depth pick up for any team is great but beyond that...


Ridiculous take. Dude takes tough defensive minutes and has played top four in the past. If u just want him at a ridiculous discount than be honest.
25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 45
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Quoting: Xspyrit
I like Mayfield but how much is he worth exactly?

This offer is worth 2nd + 3rd

What would need to be added?


Sokolov isn’t worth his draft slot. Asking price is still a first bro. See Chiarot trade for more details
25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 47
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Quoting: CMac66
Honestly, what is he doing that he should get more than a 3rd and a prospect from any team? 16 mins avg ice time and 3 mins of that on the pk? He's a 3rd pair, 5-6 defenseman with a sub 40 Corsi. Depth pick up for any team is great but beyond that...


He’s not Justin Braun. Don’t be a homer bro.
25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 49
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Sokolov isn’t worth his draft slot. Asking price is still a first bro. See Chiarot trade for more details


A bit confused here...

What makes you say Sokolov isn't worth a 61st OA pick?

What makes you compare Mayfield with Chiarot?

Chiarot was playing a MUCH MUCH bigger role than Mayfield ever did

GMs were enamored with his play during Montreal's cup run.
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25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 50
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Quoting: Xspyrit
A bit confused here...

What makes you say Sokolov isn't worth a 61st OA pick?

What makes you compare Mayfield with Chiarot?

Chiarot was playing a MUCH MUCH bigger role than Mayfield ever did


Mayfield was top four with Leddy and Toews. Chiarot was an anchor when he played with Weber and Savard.
25 oct. 2022 à 13 h 50
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A bit confused here...

What makes you say Sokolov isn't worth a 61st OA pick?

What makes you compare Mayfield with Chiarot?

Chiarot was playing a MUCH MUCH bigger role than Mayfield ever did

GMs were enamored with his play during Montreal's cup run.


Sokolov was an over ager who is still in the AHL. I’d rather have the pick to be honest.
25 oct. 2022 à 15 h 8
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Sokolov was an over ager who is still in the AHL. I’d rather have the pick to be honest.


ok but he just turned 22 years old. He should get some games this year too. Next year will be more "telling" regarding his future

Anyway, what would be the assessment if it's 2nd + 3rd then?
25 oct. 2022 à 15 h 12
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Mayfield was top four with Leddy and Toews. Chiarot was an anchor when he played with Weber and Savard.


ok I'm looking at stats on NHL.com or other websites and I don't see any of that

Mayfield EV TOI/GP ranking among Islanders D-men :

2018-19 : 5th
2019-20 : 5th
2020-21 : 4th
2021-22 : 4th
2022-23 : 5th

Chiarot just had a much bigger role (1st EV TOI/GP among Habs D-men during his whole time there). I mean, I live in Montreal and you hear about Habs all the time, everywhere
25 oct. 2022 à 15 h 32
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He’s not Justin Braun. Don’t be a homer bro.


Lol. I couldn't care less if the sens get him or not but through your mild insult and zero argument I get your point
25 oct. 2022 à 15 h 33
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Mayfield was top four with Leddy and Toews. Chiarot was an anchor when he played with Weber and Savard.


*was* clearly not the case now. And arguably against weaker competition he's performing worse.

I mean you can disagree but you're argument is he used to be tgis or that. His current tough 13 mins at even strength? That doesn't show he's playing tough competition, quite the opposite in fact
25 oct. 2022 à 15 h 37
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Quoting: Xspyrit
I like Mayfield but how much is he worth exactly?

This offer is worth 2nd + 3rd

What would need to be added?

Isles fans (specifically @Isles5513) don't consider Mayfield a 3rd liner and believe he'll net them a similar package as MTL received for Chiarot

I personally think Mayfield's value is closer to Josh Manson's = a 2nd + 2nd/3rd Prospect)

They also think Beauviliier & Barzal are NHL Hockey God's even though they've only scored 20+ Goals one time each and yet Beauvillier's currently listed as a Healthy Scratch

Flames want ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Josh Bailey

@CMac66: If anybody on here is a Homer, it's definitely @Isles5513
25 oct. 2022 à 15 h 41
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Isles fans (specifically Isles5513)

CMac66: If anybody on here is a Homer, it's definitely Isles5513


Lol agreed 😂

Objectively, Manson and Chariot were both top 4 minute shut down guys. 13 mins even strength shows he's sheltered. Not sure how Manson or Chariot are comparable. They might get a late 2nd, 55-62 overall
25 oct. 2022 à 15 h 58
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Lol agreed 😂

Objectively, Manson and Chariot were both top 4 minute shut down guys. 13 mins even strength shows he's sheltered. Not sure how Manson or Chariot are comparable. They might get a late 2nd, 55-62 overall

I don't mind ppl over valuing their team, players & prospects, but this guy goes over the top and way over the line, swearing at & insulting people when he disagrees. Likes to bully and try to put himself up with poor behavior as opposed to proving or supporting his position & argument with statistics, references & facts

Mayfield will be a player in demand given his Size, the Fact he's an RD, Pending UFA Status and has a Low Cap Hit, but I doubt he gets anywhere close to what Chiarot got
25 oct. 2022 à 16 h 8
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Isles fans (specifically Isles5513) don't consider Mayfield a 3rd liner and believe he'll net them a similar package as MTL received for Chiarot

I personally think Mayfield's value is closer to Josh Manson's = a 2nd + 2nd/3rd Prospect)

They also think Beauviliier & Barzal are NHL Hockey God's even though they've only scored 20+ Goals one time each and yet Beauvillier's currently listed as a Healthy Scratch

Flames want ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Josh Bailey

CMac66: If anybody on here is a Homer, it's definitely Isles5513


Beauvillier ran into the boards the night before he was scratched. It was allegedly Injury related.

Quoting: CMac66
Lol agreed 😂

Objectively, Manson and Chariot were both top 4 minute shut down guys. 13 mins even strength shows he's sheltered. Not sure how Manson or Chariot are comparable. They might get a late 2nd, 55-62 overall


Really shows you how little you know. You should probably look at his career as a whole instead of six games.
25 oct. 2022 à 16 h 9
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Quoting: CMac66
Lol. I couldn't care less if the sens get him or not but through your mild insult and zero argument I get your point


Quoting: CMac66
*was* clearly not the case now. And arguably against weaker competition he's performing worse.

I mean you can disagree but you're argument is he used to be tgis or that. His current tough 13 mins at even strength? That doesn't show he's playing tough competition, quite the opposite in fact


He’s behind Pulock and Dobson lmao. He kills penalties and normally doesn’t get good zone starts. Do you not understand this?
25 oct. 2022 à 16 h 10
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Isles fans (specifically Isles5513) don't consider Mayfield a 3rd liner and believe he'll net them a similar package as MTL received for Chiarot

I personally think Mayfield's value is closer to Josh Manson's = a 2nd + 2nd/3rd Prospect)

They also think Beauviliier & Barzal are NHL Hockey God's even though they've only scored 20+ Goals one time each and yet Beauvillier's currently listed as a Healthy Scratch

Flames want ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Josh Bailey

CMac66: If anybody on here is a Homer, it's definitely Isles5513


Quoting: KingofRnR
I don't mind ppl over valuing their team, players & prospects, but this guy goes over the top and way over the line, swearing at & insulting people when he disagrees. Likes to bully and try to put himself up with poor behavior as opposed to proving or supporting his position & argument with statistics, references & facts

Mayfield will be a player in demand given his Size, the Fact he's an RD, Pending UFA Status and has a Low Cap Hit, but I doubt he gets anywhere close to what Chiarot got


Nobody takes you seriously. Correct me if I’m wrong, but you either tried to trade Klyington for Beauvillier with fifty percent retained, or you argued that it was a fair deal. Don’t act like a clown then come at me cause u don’t know wtf ur talking about.
25 oct. 2022 à 16 h 12
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ok I'm looking at stats on NHL.com or other websites and I don't see any of that

Mayfield EV TOI/GP ranking among Islanders D-men :

2018-19 : 5th
2019-20 : 5th
2020-21 : 4th
2021-22 : 4th
2022-23 : 5th

Chiarot just had a much bigger role (1st EV TOI/GP among Habs D-men during his whole time there). I mean, I live in Montreal and you hear about Habs all the time, everywhere


He got more time on the PK. In 18-19 and 19-20 he took the tougher assignments to shelter Boychuk who was falling apart at the seems. And ur not gonna play him over Dobson or Pulock late in games when you need offense.
25 oct. 2022 à 16 h 27
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Nobody takes you seriously. Correct me if I’m wrong, but you either tried to trade Klyington for Beauvillier with fifty percent retained, or you argued that it was a fair deal. Don’t act like a clown then come at me cause u don’t know wtf ur talking about.

blah blah blah

You'd be lucky to get Kylington for Beauvillier 50% retained, since that's all he's currently worth. Just like his play, his value has been on the decline. Again, he's a Healthy Scratch

Salo's already been sent down like I said he would be. NYI could desperately use a guy like Kylington once he returns. You can have the best goaltending and a few decent D-Men, but there's no way NYI come anywhere close to making the playoffs this season with this group

You are the one who doesn't know what they're talking about. Must make you feel like a Real Big Man to curse and call ppl names, hey!? You're just an Immature Internet Bully/Troll/Homer, we all know & see it
25 oct. 2022 à 16 h 28
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blah blah blah

You'd be lucky to get Kylington for Beauvillier 50% retained, since that's all he's currently worth. Just like his play, his value has been on the decline. Again, he's a Healthy Scratch

Salo's already been sent down like I said he would be. NYI could desperately use a guy like Kylington once he returns. You can have the best goaltending and a few decent D-Men, but there's no way NYI come anywhere close to making the playoffs this season with this group

You are the one who doesn't know what they're talking about. Must make you feel like a Real Big Man to curse and call ppl names, hey!? You're just an Immature Internet Bully/Troll/Homer, we all know & see it


Lmao.
25 oct. 2022 à 16 h 31
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blah blah blah

You'd be lucky to get Kylington for Beauvillier 50% retained, since that's all he's currently worth. Just like his play, his value has been on the decline. Again, he's a Healthy Scratch

Salo's already been sent down like I said he would be. NYI could desperately use a guy like Kylington once he returns. You can have the best goaltending and a few decent D-Men, but there's no way NYI come anywhere close to making the playoffs this season with this group

You are the one who doesn't know what they're talking about. Must make you feel like a Real Big Man to curse and call ppl names, hey!? You're just an Immature Internet Bully/Troll/Homer, we all know & see it


Like I said, Beau ran into the boards the night before he was scratched. Allegedly that had something to do with it, but even if it doesn’t his production didn’t warrant him being scratched. And even if Klyington is better than Beau, there is no reason to trade Beau at 50% retained.

You like to call me a troll/bully and you should be embarrassed by that. I disagreed with you. Get over it.
 
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