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Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 24 oct. 2022
Publié: 24 oct. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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2900 000 $
22 250 000 $
42 375 000 $
1775 000 $
11 500 000 $
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UFA - 5
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG
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875 000 $875 000 $
DD
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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24 oct. 2022 à 10 h 46
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Zub isn't worth that much
24 oct. 2022 à 10 h 47
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5M max, which used to be the standard for a good top 4 dmen
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24 oct. 2022 à 10 h 50
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Love Zub, but he is a defensive d-man, he doesn't get the Weegar deal. Looking more at Siegenthaler contract as a starting point
24 oct. 2022 à 11 h 34
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Zub isn't worth more than $5,000,000.

Besides you're nearly $6,500,000 over the salary cap.
24 oct. 2022 à 11 h 56
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Zub isn't worth more than $5,000,000.

Besides you're nearly $6,500,000 over the salary cap.


That's the point
24 oct. 2022 à 11 h 56
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Love Zub, but he is a defensive d-man, he doesn't get the Weegar deal. Looking more at Siegenthaler contract as a starting point


Siegenthaler took a pay cut
24 oct. 2022 à 12 h 23
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Siegenthaler took a pay cut


he got a raise?
24 oct. 2022 à 12 h 34
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That's the point


You gave everyone the absolute max contract they're going to get plus more. Take a million or two off all the contracts except DeBrincat and look at it then.
24 oct. 2022 à 13 h 41
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he got a raise?


Siegenthaler could have gotten more on his extension he was making just over a mill and could have gotten 4.8 in his market value.

https://pucksandpitchforks.com/2022/07/26/new-jersey-devils-sign-jonas-siegenthaler-phenomenal-contract/
24 oct. 2022 à 13 h 42
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You gave everyone the absolute max contract they're going to get plus more. Take a million or two off all the contracts except DeBrincat and look at it then.


Yes but if we wait until the offseason the price will go up like with Norris
24 oct. 2022 à 14 h 32
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I would not sign any of those UFAs except Zub, but not a cent over 5 M$

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That's the point


Sorry I am missing the point
24 oct. 2022 à 14 h 59
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I would not sign any of those UFAs except Zub, but not a cent over 5 M$



Sorry I am missing the point


no Point in salary cap
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24 oct. 2022 à 17 h 2
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I would not sign any of those UFAs except Zub, but not a cent over 5 M$



Sorry I am missing the point


Your assuming they'll take a pay cut to be here and on this hypothetical is if they all got paid
24 oct. 2022 à 19 h 7
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Your assuming they'll take a pay cut to be here and on this hypothetical is if they all got paid



Watson, Austin : he'll be worth $900,000 but no need to re-sign him
Talbot, Cam : he'll probably still worth $2,250,000 but that's a spot we need to save on
Motte, Tyler : he'll have a career season ala Rodrigues, let someone else overpay. With Crookshank, Greig, Ostapchuk, Boucher, Jarventie, etc, etc etc we won't need him
Brassard, Derick : same, won't need him
Hamonic, Travis : same, won't need him
Zub, Artem : I can't see a world where Zub is worth as much as Weegar or more than Pulock, etc
24 oct. 2022 à 23 h 19
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Quoting: Xspyrit
Watson, Austin : he'll be worth $900,000 but no need to re-sign him
Talbot, Cam : he'll probably still worth $2,250,000 but that's a spot we need to save on
Motte, Tyler : he'll have a career season ala Rodrigues, let someone else overpay. With Crookshank, Greig, Ostapchuk, Boucher, Jarventie, etc, etc etc we won't need him
Brassard, Derick : same, won't need him
Hamonic, Travis : same, won't need him
Zub, Artem : I can't see a world where Zub is worth as much as Weegar or more than Pulock, etc


So if we don't sign Watson Talbot brassard hamonic to have depth in the organization sure zub could make 1 million or maybe 2 less but we're still over the cap
25 oct. 2022 à 11 h 56
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So if we don't sign Watson Talbot brassard hamonic to have depth in the organization sure zub could make 1 million or maybe 2 less but we're still over the cap


We can't sign these guys (we might sign 1 forward and 1 D-man veteran at 750 000$, like we did with Brassard for example)

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3726798

I put Zub at 5.0 but I am hoping for 4.5 (see Manson, Tanev, Murphy, Klefbom, etc)

I have DeBrincat at 9.0 but I'm hoping for 8.5 (see Filip Forsberg or Patrik Laine)

I have Pinto at 5.0 but there's hope he'd get less on a 2 years bridge

I have Brannstrom at 2.0 but could be more or less, depends on how the rest of his season goes. He might simply price himself out of town


After 2023-24, things will become much easier

Ryan, Phaneuf, Del Zotto buyouts will be over by then. Zaitsev buyout will take 2.0 less in cap space, Murray retained salary will disappear, etc.

Then the following year, Giroux's 6.5 comes off the books and all of this will be enough to allow to sign Sanderson and Greig long term.
 
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