I think Bo is probably better, but Bear is probably much cheaper to acquire.

Can I ask why MTL would be trading picks for players at this current time? Shouldn’t you hold onto those picks to continue the rebuild?

Well I know for damn sure you aren't getting Boqvist for a 3rd

we have a lot of b/c type of prospect so the midlle of the park picks are not that imposrtant for our prospect pool.

what would you want?

Not too sure but it's STARTING with a first

that seems a bit excesive for a guy who isn't able to crack your top 6. i've seen people say he isn't looking good lately so what makes you feel like he deserves that?

I like Adam Boqvist, I really like his upside. A 1st is ridiculous. Lundkvist just got a 1st and he's got more upside than Boqvist does. I think you could reasonably get a 2nd and a later pick, but Lundkvist is the same age, same position, much better offensive upside (dominated Sweden for years) more complete defensively. I just don't see that value in Boqvist.

Lundkvist literally just got a first and he’s has a much lower floor and ceiling than Boqvist. Boq is still relatively young for a dman. I would also say he’s better than Romanov as well. You don’t get a 22 year old RD who can run a PP1 and is coming off an 11 goal season for a third.

In fairness, I think if they were to move Boqvist it wouldn't be for picks anyway. Gotta think they'd be packaging him + whatever to try and get that help up the middle that they so desperately need. Lots of trade chips in Columbus, and as long as you make it work cap-wise, I think that's the direction they'd go.

How about just bring up barron

i don't think he's better then lundkvist or proved enough to receive more then romanov who was mtl's best defenseman. But clearly a 3rd was a underpayment, that i agree with.

he's been struggling in laval so i don't think it would be a good thing for his developpment to go in the big leagues.

Lundkvist absolutely does not have the potential that Boq does. Nor has he looked as good in NHL. Not saying he won’t pan out cause he’s still young but Boq has a higher floor and ceiling. If you look at career trajectory Boqvist is tracking almost identical to chychrun who is commanding a kings ransom right. Look at Romanov or Lundkvist deals and then add from there if you want Boqvist.

so would you guys be intersted in a jake evans or a rem pitlick?

Or just play wideman

Not a Columbus fan, but when I say "help up the middle" the key word is "help". Pitlick likely doesn't make the Jackets lineup, and Evans is the type of center that the Jackets already have. I'm talking someone that's a top 6 guy.

Not Boqvist. Defense is the worst part of our game we arent getting rid of a 22 year old first round defenseman because hes had a rough start to the season

that's an option but mtl are looking for another rd so that's why i'm doing this thread.

Romanov is much different than Boqvist. Boqvist is an offensive minded d man. Comparing their age 21 season Boq was much better offensively. He scored 4x the points Romanov did in less games and less TOI (11 goals compared to 1). Romanov might be a solid top 4 shutdown type dman in the future but Boq can be a puck moving, elite goal scoring, PP1 QB type d man. His biggest issues are positioning and size which can both be improved easier than offensive skill. He was rushed into the NHL by chicago and is still very young. He was 2nd in the entire NHL in G/60 behind this game named Makar.

I totaly agree but the fact that he estabished himself before being traded added a lot to his value. That doen't mean he as a bigger ceiling or will be a better player just that his value was higher.

The jackets could get a similar pick that lundkvist or Romanov got from a lot of teams in the NHL but that would be selling extremely low. The problem is the jackets already have Werenski as a 1D so Boqvist is redundant. He would be great on a team that needs offense from a d man. In any case the jackets aren’t going to sell low on him unless it’s in a package for a 1C or a true shutdown 1 RD

first +

Boqvist and Lundkvist are from the same age, and Lundkvist has a better ceiling than Boqvist. Lundkvist's offensive upside is better, Lundkvist's defensive ceiling is better. Boqvist is better than Romanov, but not Lundkvist. He's worth more than a 3rd, but he's not returning a 1st. Lundkvist won Sweden's player of the year awards as a 19 year old. Boqvist doesn't have that kind of pedigree. Nothing against Boqvist, but Lundkvist is worth more.

You are wrong. Boqvist was already in the NHL at that point. He scored 60 pts in the OHL as an 18yo and was in Chicago for most of his age-19 season. I’m not saying he’s the best defenseman ever, but you don’t have to neg a player with plenty of warts by making things up.