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Créé par: TMLBRIAN
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 16 oct. 2022
Publié: 16 oct. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Cap would require one LTIR injury to work.

This is assuming Vancouver is out of the playoff race.

Horvat would be a great upgrade over Kerfoot. Schenn would be good defensive depth.

Van gets a high end RD prospect and a 1st.

Thoughts?
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TOR
  1. Horvat, Bo (2 750 000 $ retained)
  2. Schenn, Luke
VAN
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Niemelä, Topi
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
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3182 500 000 $89 679 580 $212 500 $0 $-7 179 580 $
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796 667 $796 667 $
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
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750 000 $750 000 $
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762 500 $762 500 $
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762 500 $762 500 $
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UFA - 2
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900 000 $900 000 $
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UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
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UFA - 8
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
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800 000 $800 000 $
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
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4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
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UFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
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850 000 $850 000 $
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UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
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NTC
UFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
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UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
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750 000 $750 000 $
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16 oct. 2022 à 2 h 34
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Not worth it to pay that much to upgrade 3C
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16 oct. 2022 à 2 h 39
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Quoting: notKyleDUbas123
Not worth it to pay that much to upgrade 3C


I would pay it to be honest. Horvat is a captain, in his prime, great 2 way centre. Plus Schenn would be a great depth piece.

I think this would be the price. If the Leafs can get a pick back (like a 3rd back), then so be it. But I would do this for sure.

Van may still be in the playoff hunt though. I think if Horvat doesn't have an extension by then, they should trade him.
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16 oct. 2022 à 3 h 1
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3rd line has been our best so far this year. Big over pay for Horvat and a guy who would be our 10th Dman. Try for a 2C and move JT to the wing for that price.
16 oct. 2022 à 3 h 5
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3rd line has been our best so far this year. Big over pay for Horvat and a guy who would be our 10th Dman. Try for a 2C and move JT to the wing for that price.


Horvat is a number 2 C. He is a very reliable 2 way centre. Put him there and put JT on the wing if you want then. Having a number 2 C as your #3 isn't a bad call going into the playoffs. And Schenn would be our 8th best. Not 10th. He is probably worth a 3rd.
16 oct. 2022 à 3 h 26
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Horvat is a number 2 C. He is a very reliable 2 way centre. Put him there and put JT on the wing if you want then. Having a number 2 C as your #3 isn't a bad call going into the playoffs. And Schenn would be our 8th best. Not 10th. He is probably worth a 3rd.


I would get the same results putting Kerfoot at 2C. Why waste the assets?
16 oct. 2022 à 3 h 28
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I would get the same results putting Kerfoot at 2C. Why waste the assets?


Horvat is clearly an upgrade over Kerfoot. Kerfoot is a solid player. Horvat is a better player. Basically in every sense.
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16 oct. 2022 à 3 h 32
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If Vancouver is out of the playoff race and they don't have Horvat signed to an extension, I think this would be a fair deal.
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16 oct. 2022 à 3 h 44
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Horvat is clearly an upgrade over Kerfoot. Kerfoot is a solid player. Horvat is a better player. Basically in every sense.


As you stated he is a reliable 2 way C which = Not fast or skilled enough for the top 6. I'm from London and saw him in junior. He simply is not worth the price. Reliable 2 way C means not good enough!!
16 oct. 2022 à 3 h 58
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I would pay it to be honest. Horvat is a captain, in his prime, great 2 way centre. Plus Schenn would be a great depth piece.

I think this would be the price. If the Leafs can get a pick back (like a 3rd back), then so be it. But I would do this for sure.

Van may still be in the playoff hunt though. I think if Horvat doesn't have an extension by then, they should trade him.


I just don't really get it. Kerfoot has been fine this year. Why trade a 1st and a top defensemen prospect to barely improve. I mean is Horvat better defensively by a bit yes, is he a lot better at draws yes, but other than that he doesn't really give us anything more than what we have with Kerfoot. Think about it, Kerfoot had 1 less point with 18 less powerplay points. If you say well Horvat will get powerplay points with the leafs, in the playoffs he's barely going to play since PP1 controls almost all of the time. I feel like the leafs are perfectly fine right to sit back because the only players I can see the leafs acquiring at the deadline who are significant improvements are Kane (controls his own destiny), Klingberg and Severson (both defensemen are going to get at least a 1st and a 2nd which doesn't seem worth it since Holl isn't that much of a downgrade. Maybe a goalie, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
16 oct. 2022 à 8 h 56
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I think the canucks need to sweeten the deal a bit, but yeah, a good idea for both teams.
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16 oct. 2022 à 9 h 5
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Quoting: Silverbug
As you stated he is a reliable 2 way C which = Not fast or skilled enough for the top 6. I'm from London and saw him in junior. He simply is not worth the price. Reliable 2 way C means not good enough!!


You are judging him on his jr days.give ur head a shake. Canucks decline we are not trading Bo or Schenn.IMHO.
 
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