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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #3: The Toronto Maple LTI's

15 oct. 2022 à 17 h 56
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15 oct. 2022 à 17 h 56
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My bet is the Leafs flip Simmonds to Ottawa in exchange for Bibeau and call Kallgren up. Bibeau just fills a hole for the Marlies until Murray is healthy and clears the crease in Belleville for Mandolese and Sogaard.

Any of the journeymen goaltenders that would otherwise be available I wouldn't trust in net for a team that should be aiming for President's Trophy++, so defer the extra work to the kid in the system.


Guess it depends on how highly you value Samsonov. If Samsonov is going to to put up a sub .900 and above 3.00 GAA, you need to find a guy capable of playing starting minutes ASAP. It's not out of a question Toronto misses the playoffs with how tightly contested the Atlantic is.
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15 oct. 2022 à 17 h 58
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Canucks have a net -1 goals on the powerplay. They have 1 powerplay goal and 2 shorthanded goals against....
15 oct. 2022 à 17 h 58
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Guess it depends on how highly you value Samsonov. If Samsonov is going to to put up a sub .900 and above 3.00 GAA, you need to find a guy capable of playing starting minutes ASAP. It's not out of a question Toronto misses the playoffs with how tightly contested the Atlantic is.


I think Samsonov gets a fair bit of leash: he's the better half of Dubas' gamble this summer. If he was ever going to cement himself as the bonafide 1A on this team, there's no better time than now.

EDIT: furthermore, the financials are far too complex this early in the season for the Leafs to go out and pull something akin to a Reimer acquisition without paying out the nose for it. If by the time Murray is eligible to come off LTIR Dubas is dissatisfied with Samsonov's numbers, you make the call then.
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15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 1
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I think Samsonov gets a fair bit of leash: he's the better half of Dubas' gamble this summer. If he was ever going to cement himself as the bonafide 1A on this team, there's no better time than now.


I do like Samsonov and do believe will be a starting goalie in the NHL,
With Dubas not having a contract next year, I wonder if he starts to panic.
15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 4
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My bold prediction was that Murray got 6 wins in October and THEN got hurt. Looks like it was 1 loss and then an injury, which is far more on brand if we’re being completely honest
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15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 5
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Looks like Cole is cleared
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15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 6
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Quoting: Alfie11
My bold prediction was that Murray got 6 wins in October and THEN got hurt. Looks like it was 1 loss and then an injury, which is far more on brand if we’re being completely honest


Our starter laster longer than your starter, so at least we have that
15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 7
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Looks like Cole is cleared


**** like this makes it so incredible hard for real victims to come forward
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15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 8
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Our starter laster longer than your starter, so at least we have that

I mean, I always thought Forsberg and Samsonov were the better goalies on our respective teams anyway lol
15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 10
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**** like this makes it so incredible hard for real victims to come forward


Not sure how to reply on this since it's a touchy subject. I'm hoping they find the person who made those claims and either way it results in a charge. Either charge the person for lying, or charge Cole.
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15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 11
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With Murray on LTIR what to Leafs and Isles fans think of a Varlamov trade? Sorokin seems ready for a heavy workload now anyway

I imagine the price would be something similar to the Fleury trade last year: 2nd rounder than can upgrade to a 1st if the Leafs go to the conference final and Varly has 4+ wins in the first 2 rounds? Maybe Leafs add something on top for retention (by the Isles or another team)?


actually
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⁃James Reimer (0-2-0)
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15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 13
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Not sure how to reply on this since it's a touchy subject. I'm hoping they find the person who made those claims and either way it results in a charge. Either charge the person for lying, or charge Cole.


On top of this, I'd beg the community as a whole to recognize that every damn one of these situations are different and usually a lot more complex than x-did-y to somebody. Please refrain from using this case against other victims who come forward, it's not their fault that this was (so far) a false claim.
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15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 17
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actually
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Would have made a much smarter and safer trade option in the summer
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15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 18
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Not sure how to reply on this since it's a touchy subject. I'm hoping they find the person who made those claims and either way it results in a charge. Either charge the person for lying, or charge Cole.


Just to put this topic to bed (and back on hockey)

I was just referencing people making false claims. If that is the case here
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15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 19
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Would have made a much smarter and safer trade option in the summer


Better late then never, Sharks had one of their worst performances in recent years last night, Canes 35-19 in shots and it was a one goal game lmfao.

Oh and, James Reimer is playing sick and did that.
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If Dubas calls Grier; I pray to the higher beings that he takes a ransom
15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 25
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Canucks are seriously about to lose to Philly. I think I need a new team to cheer for this season
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15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 26
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Canucks are seriously about to lose to Philly. I think I need a new team to cheer for this season


Choked another lead.....
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15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 37
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Better late then never, Sharks had one of their worst performances in recent years last night, Canes 35-19 in shots and it was a one goal game lmfao.

Oh and, James Reimer is playing sick and did that.
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If Dubas calls Grier; I pray to the higher beings that he takes a ransom

Reimer for Murray + 1st? Or maybe Vladar + Dube + a bit more for Nylander 👀
15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 38
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Regarding Ian Cole: The NHL did their due diligence on this but the major hindrance was the victim not coming forward or co-operating. There's a chance that the victim is distrustful of the NHL or feels intimidated to provide any further information or cooperation. It's very difficult to gather a comprehensive profile of these situations in the first place and often times the victim needs to be questioned thoroughly and faces massive scrutiny over minor details or events. Almost always, the victims in these cases rarely receive any substantial benefit to coming forward, especially if the perpetrator is a public figure.

I always believe that the victims in these cases deserve the benefit of the doubt, even if this individual case turns out to be false.
15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 39
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Travis Konecny is better than Elias Petterson and Jack Hughes Combined hate to break it to you Canucks and Devils fans.
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15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 44
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
My bet is the Leafs flip Simmonds to Ottawa in exchange for Bibeau and call Kallgren up. Bibeau just fills a hole for the Marlies until Murray is healthy and clears the crease in Belleville for Mandolese and Sogaard.

Any of the journeymen goaltenders that would otherwise be available I wouldn't trust in net for a team that should be aiming for President's Trophy++, so defer the extra work to the kid in the system.


I think Toronto is going forward with Kallgren as backup unless another goaltender ends up getting too invested in the splits.

If they trade for a goalie, I think Kerfoot has to go the other way. A two game sample but he hasn't been very impressive and clearing the 3.5 million would allow Marlies to be called up. Robertson not being in the NHL is entirely a consequence of the salary cap.
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15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 47
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Carter Fart with the admirable 0.500 save % so far


Nucks just completely a joke rn
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15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 49
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This is the kind of mess we expected when we saw the Murray trade. Ottawa took a loss on Murray but lost this headache.
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