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Varly

Créé par: UpsideDownQue
Date de création initiale: 15 oct. 2022
Publié: 15 oct. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
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CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Varlamov, Semyon11 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Varlamov, Semyon (2 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2023 ronde en 6e (NYI)
NYI
  1. Källgren, Erik
  2. Minten, Fraser
  3. Choix de 2023 ronde en 5e (TOR)
  4. Choix de 2024 ronde en 4e (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Duhaime, Brandon
  2. Sustr, Andrej
MIN
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Varlamov, Semyon
  3. Choix de 2024 ronde en 2e (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Wild retain 1.25M on Varlamov
3.
TOR
    Future Considerations
    VAN
    1. Holl, Justin
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2382 500 000 $81 867 913 $212 500 $0 $632 087 $
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    Bunting, Michael
    950 000 $
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    Matthews, Auston
    11 640 250 $
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    UFA - 2
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    Marner, Mitchell
    10 903 000 $
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    UFA - 3
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    Nylander, William
    6 962 366 $
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    UFA - 2
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    Tavares, John
    11 000 000 $
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    Malgin, Denis
    750 000 $
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    Robertson, Nicholas
    796 667 $
    AG
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    Engvall, Pierre
    2 250 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
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    Järnkrok, Calle
    2 100 000 $
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    UFA - 4
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    Aston-Reese, Zach
    840 630 $
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    UFA - 1
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    Kämpf, David
    1 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
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    Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
    1 000 000 $
    AD
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    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    Rielly, Morgan
    7 500 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 8
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    Brodie, TJ
    5 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Varlamov, Semyon
    1 250 000 $
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    Sandin, Rasmus
    1 400 000 $
    DG
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    Giordano, Mark
    800 000 $
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    Murray, Matt
    4 687 500 $
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    Muzzin, Jake
    5 625 000 $
    DG
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    Liljegren, Timothy
    1 400 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
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    Samsonov, Ilya
    1 800 000 $
    G
    RFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    Duhaime, Brandon
    750 000 $
    AD, AG
    RFA - 1
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    Sustr, Andrej
    750 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1

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    15 oct. 2022 à 17 h 36
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    But what happens when Murray comes back?
    15 oct. 2022 à 17 h 37
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    Isles have no other backup.
    15 oct. 2022 à 17 h 38
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    This will work for for little while but the problem is when Liljegren and Benn return (I don't know what their time frame was) the Leafs will be back at the cap and Murray will eventually return as well putting the Leafs once again over the cap. That's the issue with running an LTIR dependant lineup, eventually everyone gets healthy.
    15 oct. 2022 à 17 h 40
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    Quoting: tasieboy
    But what happens when Murray comes back?


    I guess it depends on how long hes out for
    15 oct. 2022 à 17 h 40
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    Murray will be back though so what happens then.....

    As Groin injuries typically take 4 weeks (Mrazek or Quick example) to 8 weeks to heal

    If all goes well Murray will be back November/December. Samsonov/Kallgren should be able to carry the load till then

    Now if this was a concussion I would explore a goalie trade
    15 oct. 2022 à 17 h 42
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    Quoting: Warrior24
    Isles have no other backup.


    Schneider was solid in the AHL last year, or they could find one in a trade for cheap
    15 oct. 2022 à 17 h 46
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    I think that a deal would include a few things:

    Kallgren going back to NY
    A pick and a player from Toronto. I dont think Lou wants picks as much as players. Not sure who the leafs have. Minten could be one, not sure how highly the leafs value him tho. 20-35-55 in 67 in his DY seems fair. So maybe something like Minten+Kallgren+4th+5th for Varly 2.5 mil retained and 6th is what i would think makes sense for NYI.

    Minten was a 2nd rounder so i dont think this is so far off. Kallgren is just to back up and then the late picks shouldnt mean much
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    15 oct. 2022 à 17 h 57
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    Schneider was solid in the AHL last year, or they could find one in a trade for cheap


    Schneider is not NHL level, and the Isles are not going to trade Varly to then have to find another goalie. If Varly is the goalie that Toronto wants they have to find a 3rd team to provide the Isles with another backup option.
    15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 1
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    I Dont think any team is goig to be trading a goalie in the 1st week of the season, Leafs are going to have to weather the storm
    15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 6
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    Quoting: Warrior24
    Schneider is not NHL level, and the Isles are not going to trade Varly to then have to find another goalie. If Varly is the goalie that Toronto wants they have to find a 3rd team to provide the Isles with another backup option.


    Could be Kallgren going back like @oliver_wahlstrom suggested
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    15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 14
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    There's no incentive for Winnipeg to involve themselves in this.
    15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 15
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    Quoting: Campabee
    This will work for for little while but the problem is when Liljegren and Benn return (I don't know what their time frame was) the Leafs will be back at the cap and Murray will eventually return as well putting the Leafs once again over the cap. That's the issue with running an LTIR dependant lineup, eventually everyone gets healthy.


    Quoting: aadoyle
    Murray will be back though so what happens then.....

    As Groin injuries typically take 4 weeks (Mrazek or Quick example) to 8 weeks to heal

    If all goes well Murray will be back November/December. Samsonov/Kallgren should be able to carry the load till then

    Now if this was a concussion I would explore a goalie trade


    Yea good points. I changed the trades a bit and added some extra moves to they would be cap compliant even when healthy. They could carry 3 goalies if they wanted (Varly is the strongest of the 3 anyway imo) once Murray is back. They lose Kerfoot but imo are deep enough at forward that losing him to upgrade their goaltending is a net positive change
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    15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 16
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    There's no incentive for Winnipeg to involve themselves in this.


    Im not sure what the trade was before but ive been editing them after I posted this. WPG is getting a 2nd round pick and upgrading their F core by adding Kerfoot in exchange for taking on extra cap
    15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 26
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    Im not sure what the trade was before but ive been editing them after I posted this. WPG is getting a 2nd round pick and upgrading their F core by adding Kerfoot in exchange for taking on extra cap


    Meh, a rental and a 2nd 2 drafts from now isn't much incentive to waste cap space now. That's what I mean about no incentive. The Jets are giving up two players to lose cap space and gain a rental. I'd imagine the Jets ask for something with team control that helps them now if they are throwing away cap space to help someone out when they don't have to.
    15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 34
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    Meh, a rental and a 2nd 2 drafts from now isn't much incentive to waste cap space now. That's what I mean about no incentive. The Jets are giving up two players to lose cap space and gain a rental. I'd imagine the Jets ask for something with team control that helps them now if they are throwing away cap space to help someone out when they don't have to.


    Fair enough, I switched it to a similar trade with Minnesota
    15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 50
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    Quoting: UpsideDownQue
    Fair enough, I switched it to a similar trade with Minnesota


    There is ZERO incentive for Minnesota to do this. All this does is burn cap space for Minnesota. $4M worth of it, which is idiotic.
    15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 53
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    Quoting: Warrior24
    Schneider is not NHL level, and the Isles are not going to trade Varly to then have to find another goalie. If Varly is the goalie that Toronto wants they have to find a 3rd team to provide the Isles with another backup option.


    Schneider isn’t NHL level. Imagine saying that a few years ago when he was on NJ
    15 oct. 2022 à 18 h 55
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    There is ZERO incentive for Minnesota to do this. All this does is burn cap space for Minnesota. $4M worth of it, which is idiotic.


    Well there is an incentive, its an upgrade at forward and a 2nd round pick. Maybe thats not enough to convince MIN to take on the extra cap but its not like theres no compensation for it

    I thought maybe MIN would be in a better position than WPG to make a deal like this since they are contenders which is why I changed it from WPG, but I guess they could just send Kerfoot elsewhere and have a team like ANA/ARZ/CHI retain on Varlamov instead
    15 oct. 2022 à 19 h 49
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    Well there is an incentive, its an upgrade at forward and a 2nd round pick. Maybe thats not enough to convince MIN to take on the extra cap but its not like theres no compensation for it

    I thought maybe MIN would be in a better position than WPG to make a deal like this since they are contenders which is why I changed it from WPG, but I guess they could just send Kerfoot elsewhere and have a team like ANA/ARZ/CHI retain on Varlamov instead


    Duhaime is trending and on a trajectory to become a Marcus Foligno 2.0 type of player for Minnesota. That's who HC Dean Evason compared him to last year in just his rookie season.

    Besides, Duhaime is 3 years younger and only makes $750k.

    That last part is infinitely more valuable to Minnesota than Kerfoot's $3.5M cap hit. Especially when we already have 3-6 guys on roster who do what Kerfoot does either just as well or do it cheaper.
     
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