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Damon Severson Trade Comps

Créé par: NHLfan10506
Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 11 oct. 2022
Publié: 12 oct. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Since we are back to seeing Damon Severson trades again, I thought I'd try to put together a few trade comps. Some of the teams may not fit, but hopefully the comps match up. These are for fun, but can also be useful. Let me know what you think.
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CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Severson, Damon
14 166 666 $
Severson, Damon
14 166 666 $
Severson, Damon
14 166 666 $
Severson, Damon
14 166 666 $
Severson, Damon
14 166 666 $
Transactions
1.
NJD
  1. Bernard-Docker, Jacob
  2. Zaitsev, Nikita (2 250 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
Comp: Hampus Lindholm (2022)

ANA
John Moore ($1.6m)
Urho Vaakanainen
2022 1st round pick
2023 2nd round pick
2024 2nd round pick

BOS
Hampus Lindholm (50%)
Kodie Curran
OTT
  1. Russo, Robbie
  2. Severson, Damon (2 083 333 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Note: Zaitsev's $4.5 million is 3x as high as John Moore, so it is retained 50%, then bought out in June 2023:

Zaitsev cap hit for NJD
2023-24: $1,416,667
2024-25: $416,667
2.
NJD
  1. Firkus, Jagger [Liste de réserve]
  2. Soucy, Carson
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (SEA)
Détails additionnels:
Comp: Justin Faulk (2019)

STL
Justin Faulk (14% retained)
2020 5th round pick

CAR
Joel Edmundson
Dominik Bokk
2021 7th round pick
SEA
  1. Severson, Damon (583 333 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
Note: Severseon extends 7 x $6.5 million, Soucy signs 1 x $3.1 million
3.
NJD
  1. Tolvanen, Eeli
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NSH)
Détails additionnels:
Comp: Brian Campbell (2008)

SJS
Brian Campbell
2008 7th round pick

BUF
Steve Bernier
2008 1st round pick
NSH
  1. Severson, Damon (1 706 428 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
Note: Campbell was pending UFA with $1.5 million on contract (3% of salary camp at time). I have retained Severson down to 3% of current cap ($2.46m). Campbell did not sign an extension (he ended up signing a huge UFA deal with Blackhawks)
4.
NJD
  1. Guhle, Kaiden
  2. Matheson, Michael
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
Comp: Dan Boyle (2008)

SJS
Dan Boyle
Brad Lukowich

TBL
Matthew Carle
Ty Wishart
2009 1st round pick
2010 4th round pick
MTL
  1. Severson, Damon
  2. Smith, Brendan
Détails additionnels:
Note: Not the perfect comp since Habs aren't buyers. Also, Matheson is a bit older than Matt Carle, who was 23 and one-season removed from leading rookie dmen in scoring. But his contract was similar % of cap as Matheson's and was seen as an underperfomer in 2007-08. He was eventually flipped to Philly, where he had his most notable seasons. Wishart was a 6'4" 225 lb defensive LHD taken 16th overall in 2006 draft and had been putting up some points in WHL in his D+1 and D+2 seasons.
5.
NJD
  1. Borgström, Henrik
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
Détails additionnels:
Comp: Brendan Witt (2006)

NSH
Brendan Witt

WAS
Kris Beech
2006 1st round pick
WSH
  1. Severson, Damon
Détails additionnels:
Note: Kris Beech was a big center taken #7 overall in 1999 draft and had been the centerpiece of the trade that brought Jaromir Jagr to Washington. Witt was more of a stay-at-home dman, so doesn't match up perfectly.
6.
NJD
    Future Considerations

    Comp: Shane Gostisbehere (2021)

    ARI
    Shane Gostisbehere
    2022 2nd round pick
    2022 7th round pick

    PHI
    Future considerations
    ARI
    1. Severson, Damon
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
    3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
    Détails additionnels:
    Suggested by KMMHL2012
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Damon Severson: 2 083 333 $ (50%)
    • Damon Severson: 583 333 $ (14%)
    • Damon Severson: 1 706 428 $ (40.95%)
    Frais appliqués
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    2023
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    2024
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    2025
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    2382 500 000 $79 472 220 $0 $1 332 500 $3 027 780 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
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    8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
    C
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    AD, AG
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
    C
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    5 450 000 $5 450 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
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    3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    2 375 000 $2 375 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
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    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
    AD, C
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    975 000 $975 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    825 000 $825 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
    G
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    3 166 667 $3 166 667 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    950 000 $950 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 4
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    874 125 $874 125 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    750 000 $750 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
    2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    750 000 $750 000 $
    AG, DG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
    DG/DD
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Predators de Nashville
    1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Kraken de Seattle
    2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Capitals de Washington
    750 000 $750 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1

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    12 oct. 2022 à 14 h 55
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    Comps from more than two years ago aren't really relevent unless it's a franchise type player since they are traded so rarely. The league has changed a lot mostly due to the cap and the market in general changes year to year and even month to month.

    The Manson trade might be the best comparable. I think Lindholm is viewed as a better player and there was a strong possibility of him re-signing in ANA.
    12 oct. 2022 à 15 h 20
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    Quoting: gavinray
    It's a bad comp. Not realistic imo.
    A better one would be the Manson trade. Helleson + 2nd.


    Severson is a heck of a lot closer to Hampus Lindholm than Josh Manson

    But appreciate that you are adding another comp to consider
    12 oct. 2022 à 15 h 26
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    Isn't it fun how many people jump all over you on this site rather than taking 30 seconds to read the explanation?

    Most of these comp are a bit out dated but still provide good context.

    Lindholm comp is solid for the high end return if a team really likes Severson and basically has an extension in place for him.

    The Witt and Campbell comps are outdated but still provides what would be a reasonable expectation for a return. Good prospect + 1st.

    As others have mentioned, the Manson trade last year (helleson + 2nd) is probably a good comp for the low end of what they'd get in a return.

    Basically this shows the return could reasonably be anywhere from: 2nd + solid prospect to 1st + 2 2nds + decent change of scenery prospect + cap dump. With the former being a bit underwhelming and the latter being a homerun.
    12 oct. 2022 à 15 h 28
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    Quoting: Mediumyeet
    Isn't it fun how many people jump all over you on this site rather than taking 30 seconds to read the explanation?

    Most of these comp are a bit out dated but still provide good context.

    Lindholm comp is solid for the high end return if a team really likes Severson and basically has an extension in place for him.

    The Witt and Campbell comps are outdated but still provides what would be a reasonable expectation for a return. Good prospect + 1st.

    As others have mentioned, the Manson trade last year (helleson + 2nd) is probably a good comp for the low end of what they'd get in a return.

    Basically this shows the return could reasonably be anywhere from: 2nd + solid prospect to 1st + 2 2nds + decent change of scenery prospect + cap dump. With the former being a bit underwhelming and the latter being a homerun.


    Mediumyeet gets it. 100%.
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    12 oct. 2022 à 16 h 7
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    These are comps. Not asking prices. (It says it there in the title). They are intended to give a range of prices that could mimic a market. In other words, these are not the answer to “what do we need to pay” but are more an answer to “what could other teams be paying”. Comps. Like when you buy a house.

    So for instance, if you are the GM of a team in need of a player like Severson, and you want to know what a competitive bid would look like, you’d want your AGM to assemble a list of comps. It doesn’t mean all those teams are bidding. And since players aren’t really sold via auction, there is no market information about bid vs ask prices. So your AGM makes up a list like this. And if it’s accurate, you’d have a rough idea of what type of offers Tom Fitzgerald is receiving from your competition. Some good, some bad.

    Does that make sense?


    These are not comps, like buying a house, you're comparing a basement condo on skid row to prime San Fran real estate.

    Guhle and Matheson > Wishart and Carle

    Zaitsev and Bernad-Docker > Moore and Vaakanainen

    Your 1st rd picks are coming from teams that would be significantly worse than the respective picks in the comps, so not factoring in that automatic jump of 5-10 spots in the first round is an oversight.

    Then there's the comparing of Severson, a one dimensional RD to Boyle, Campbell, Faulk, and Lindholm, all who bring so much more than offense from the right side.
    12 oct. 2022 à 16 h 17
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    Quoting: KMMHL2012
    These are not comps, like buying a house, you're comparing a basement condo on skid row to prime San Fran real estate.

    Guhle and Matheson > Wishart and Carle

    Zaitsev and Bernad-Docker > Moore and Vaakanainen

    Your 1st rd picks are coming from teams that would be significantly worse than the respective picks in the comps, so not factoring in that automatic jump of 5-10 spots in the first round is an oversight.

    Then there's the comparing of Severson, a one dimensional RD to Boyle, Campbell, Faulk, and Lindholm, all who bring so much more than offense from the right side.


    Yeah, you're probably right. Devils would probably have to pay to dump this one-dimensional skid row of a player.
    12 oct. 2022 à 16 h 25
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    Yeah, you're probably right. Devils would probably have to pay to dump this one-dimensional skid row of a player.


    a bit cynical are we?

    Not a cap dump, but definitely not Dan Boyle either.

    I think he gets a late 1st and B-Level prospect.

    Another thing to factor, how many offensive D will be available at the TDL, Gostisbhere, Klingberg, Shattenkirk, and maybe Dumba (depending where the Wild are)

    Ghost is almost a true comp as a rental as Severson, would you trade any of that above for Ghost? probably not.

    Remember, Severson's projected WAR % is 59.... 62% EV defence, he's not some stud.
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    12 oct. 2022 à 16 h 46
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    Quoting: KMMHL2012
    a bit cynical are we?

    Not a cap dump, but definitely not Dan Boyle either.

    I think he gets a late 1st and B-Level prospect.

    Another thing to factor, how many offensive D will be available at the TDL, Gostisbhere, Klingberg, Shattenkirk, and maybe Dumba (depending where the Wild are)

    Ghost is almost a true comp as a rental as Severson, would you trade any of that above for Ghost? probably not.

    Remember, Severson's projected WAR % is 59.... 62% EV defence, he's not some stud.


    Ghost. Strong comp.

    So Devils give a 2nd and a 7th to move Severson contract.

    Brilliant.
    12 oct. 2022 à 16 h 50
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    Ghost. Strong comp.

    So Devils give a 2nd and a 7th to move Severson contract.

    Brilliant.


    Love it when homers overvalue their players.... just ask for McDavid and Matthews in a 3 team deal with salary retention while you're at.

    Severson is so good, the NHL will let him play for 2 teams simultaneously.
    12 oct. 2022 à 16 h 58
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    Quoting: KMMHL2012
    Love it when homers overvalue their players.... just ask for McDavid and Matthews in a 3 team deal with salary retention while you're at.

    Severson is so good, the NHL will let him play for 2 teams simultaneously.


    Saying NJD gets a positive return for Severson makes me a homer who overvalues his players, I guess.
    12 oct. 2022 à 20 h 3
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    2 firsts + 2 seconds for Severson ???

    NO THANKS


    I can also 100% guarantee that Habs fans wouldn't trade Guhle for Severson either
    12 oct. 2022 à 20 h 10
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    Quoting: Xspyrit
    2 firsts + 2 seconds for Severson ???

    NO THANKS


    I can also 100% guarantee that Habs fans wouldn't trade Guhle for Severson either


    These are comps, but no one reads anymore.

    And Habs fans have made clear that Severson has negative value (and Josh Anderson > Nemec).
    13 oct. 2022 à 0 h 3
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    These are comps, but no one reads anymore.

    And Habs fans have made clear that Severson has negative value (and Josh Anderson > Nemec).


    Comps or offers, I don't see the point

    But you're right about the 2nd point, lol I shouldn't have said "Habs fans"
    13 oct. 2022 à 11 h 40
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    Modifié 13 oct. 2022 à 14 h 38
    This is an interesting concept for Washington, but I think there may be a better comp from DC than the Witt trade. Seems like it’s lower value from Washington than what’s realistic, and I would instead look to comp it to the Shattenkirk trade.

    Both are decent RD options that can play an offensive game, have a year left on affordable deals, and in my opinion, are risky plays in a different defensive system (which we saw with Shattenkirk struggling to do anything productive during his short stay in DC)

    I’d give the current comp as Borgstrom (Sanford), 1st, 2nd, and McIlrath (Brad Malone), for Severson (Shattenkirk) and Schmid (Copley), unless Schmid carries more value than I think, in which a different depth goalie could work instead.
    13 oct. 2022 à 15 h 17
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    Quoting: NoVaSpartan
    This is an interesting concept for Washington, but I think there may be a better comp from DC than the Witt trade. Seems like it’s lower value from Washington than what’s realistic, and I would instead look to comp it to the Shattenkirk trade.

    Both are decent RD options that can play an offensive game, have a year left on affordable deals, and in my opinion, are risky plays in a different defensive system (which we saw with Shattenkirk struggling to do anything productive during his short stay in DC)

    I’d give the current comp as Borgstrom (Sanford), 1st, 2nd, and McIlrath (Brad Malone), for Severson (Shattenkirk) and Schmid (Copley), unless Schmid carries more value than I think, in which a different depth goalie could work instead.


    I have used the Shattenkirk trade as well for a comp. That’s a good one. The whole point to show a range of possible prices (you’d be surprised at the wide range of offers for him we see on here).
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