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Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 9 oct. 2022
Publié: 9 oct. 2022
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  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
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  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
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PK god and very versatile player in top 6 or excellent 3c
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9 oct. 2022 à 10 h 44
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Again though the Leafs have cap problems, so do so many other teams to absorb a 3.5m cap hit. And teams with cap have plenty of options on what teams they want to deal with. Kerfoot's trade value is probably "please take him" as the Leafs have serious cap issues. Certainly his "playing value" is much higher.
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9 oct. 2022 à 10 h 47
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Again though the Leafs have cap problems, so do so many other teams to absorb a 3.5m cap hit. And teams with cap have plenty of options on what teams they want to deal with. Kerfoot's trade value is probably "please take him" as the Leafs have serious cap issues. Certainly his "playing value" is much higher.


Minnesota is really the only team that’s trying to contend that has the cap space to make this happen
9 oct. 2022 à 10 h 48
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Quoting: palhal
Again though the Leafs have cap problems, so do so many other teams to absorb a 3.5m cap hit. And teams with cap have plenty of options on what teams they want to deal with. Kerfoot's trade value is probably "please take him" as the Leafs have serious cap issues. Certainly his "playing value" is much higher.


Beyond this, Leafs fans seem to want to always ignore that Minnesota already have THREE players just like Kerfoot. He's redundant, and someone who we have ZERO need for.

But Leafs fans seemingly continue to think we need him, because reasons. 🙄
9 oct. 2022 à 10 h 49
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Minnesota is really the only team that’s trying to contend that has the cap space to make this happen


That has absolutely no need for the guy.
9 oct. 2022 à 10 h 50
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Minnesota is really the only team that’s trying to contend that has the cap space to make this happen


Thanks proving my point. If Minni is the only contending team (and Kerfoot has M NTC) that has cap.....the return certainly isn't a 2nd rounder. As you pointed out, there is few bidders for Kerfoot's services as good teams with cap have many options. Interesting guys like Kerfoot probably have better trade value at TDL when their cap doesn't affect cap strapped teams so much.
9 oct. 2022 à 11 h 45
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Minnesota is really the only team that’s trying to contend that has the cap space to make this happen


Which means you pay, not Minnesota who has better players playing on 4th line than Kerfoot
9 oct. 2022 à 11 h 56
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Definitely over exaggerating on Kerfoot here, he is not a PK god, nor is he an excellent 3C. He is fine at those roles but he is maybe the a slightly better 3C than Dvorak

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That has absolutely no need for the guy.

I disagree with this, He would actually be a pretty decent add for the Wild. I'm not sure the Wild will be as lucky this year with their center depth performing so well
9 oct. 2022 à 12 h 18
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Quoting: Wildnochance
Which means you pay, not Minnesota who has better players playing on 4th line than Kerfoot


Well that’s definitely not the case
9 oct. 2022 à 12 h 25
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I disagree with this, He would actually be a pretty decent add for the Wild. I'm not sure the Wild will be as lucky this year with their center depth performing so well


Hartman, Eriksson-Ek, and Rossi. All three are either cheaper or downright better than Kerfoot, and are better options down the middle for Minnesota for those reasons.

Then we have Jost, Gaudreau, and Steel. All three of which can play center if needed or on the wing. And all of them cost less too, and I don't mean paid salary... which doesn't help the Wild one iota, but in terms of actual cap hit.

The Wild don't need Kerfoot because they're already built for flexibility with players who are just as good defensively or provide that niche at a lower cap hit cost and can be deployed up and down the lineup or at any forward positions as necessary.

Basically every player in the bottom six can already either play or fill in at all forward positions except Duhaime.

Kerfoot may be a better player than what's on roster in certain spots and makes next to nothing in paid salary. But it still doesn't matter given how redundant he'd be with what we already have or his cost in cap AAV.
9 oct. 2022 à 12 h 28
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Quoting: RazWild
Hartman, Eriksson-Ek, and Rossi. All three are either cheaper or downright better than Kerfoot, and are better options down the middle for Minnesota for those reasons.

Then we have Jost, Gaudreau, and Steel. All three of which can play center if needed or on the wing. And all of them cost less too, and I don't mean paid salary... which doesn't help the Wild one iota, but in terms of actual cap hit.

The Wild don't need Kerfoot because they're already built for flexibility with players who are just as good defensively or provide that niche at a lower cap hit cost and can be deployed up and down the lineup or at any forward positions as necessary.

Kerfoot may be a better player than what's on roster in certain spots and makes next to nothing in paid salary. But it still doesn't matter given how redundant he'd be with what we already have or his cost in cap AAV.



What if any of those guys get injured? Kerfoot has played very well in a top 6 centre position when Matthews or Tavares are injured, id personally love to keep him he’s very clutch in those scenarios we just can’t afford him even after a trade and with only two spares we only have 700k
9 oct. 2022 à 12 h 40
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What if any of those guys get injured? Kerfoot has played very well in a top 6 centre position when Matthews or Tavares are injured, id personally love to keep him he’s very clutch in those scenarios we just can’t afford him even after a trade and with only two spares we only have 700k


If, and only if, that were the case.

We already have 7 internal options on our own roster that can be moved around in order to fill in for the injury.

That's what I'm talking about when referring to our rosters flexibility and ability to play at all forward positions. Literally only FIVE players on our roster can't play the center position and are strictly wingers.

If our roster was that decimated by injuries then it's possible and likely Guerin would make a trade to bolster the roster. Until then, Guerin is only going to try and bring someone in if he can get that player at a significant discount.

In short, he ain't paying full price.
9 oct. 2022 à 22 h 8
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If, and only if, that were the case.

We already have 7 internal options on our own roster that can be moved around in order to fill in for the injury.

That's what I'm talking about when referring to our rosters flexibility and ability to play at all forward positions. Literally only FIVE players on our roster can't play the center position and are strictly wingers.

If our roster was that decimated by injuries then it's possible and likely Guerin would make a trade to bolster the roster. Until then, Guerin is only going to try and bring someone in if he can get that player at a significant discount.

In short, he ain't paying full price.


Understandable, I do believe a late 2nd isn’t full price however, a late 1st at last years deadline or even this one wouldn’t be out of the question
10 oct. 2022 à 14 h 23
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Understandable, I do believe a late 2nd isn’t full price however, a late 1st at last years deadline or even this one wouldn’t be out of the question


Yeah it's absolutely it. Minnesota didn't even pay a 1st for marc Andre Fleury. Better players were given away this offseason for nothing. Players like Kerfoot are a dime a dozen. You aren't getting any positive anything from him .
10 oct. 2022 à 14 h 34
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Kerfoot last season just proves the Tavares effect is still a thing.
 
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