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If PAV is the guy they need to move

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Date de création initiale: 5 oct. 2022
Publié: 5 oct. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Wild du Minnesota
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MIN
  1. Pavelski, Joe
  2. 2023 2e round pick (DAL)
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  1. Gaudreau, Frédérick
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  1. 2023 2e round pick (VGK)
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  1. Jost, Tyson
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5 oct. à 11 h 37
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Doubt if Pavelski is the guy due his NMC.
5 oct. à 11 h 38
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This gave me a good chuckle, thanks
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5 oct. à 11 h 38
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Don’t want Jost, and ZERO CHANCE we’d pay a 2nd for him
5 oct. à 11 h 39
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Quoting: palhal
Doubt if Pavelski is the guy due his NMC.


I understand the thinking - but if they pulled something similar to Tampa where you either accept this trade or go on waivers, Minnesota seems a lot better of an option than Montreal
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I understand the thinking - but if they pulled something similar to Tampa where you either accept this trade or go on waivers, Minnesota seems a lot better of an option than Montreal


NMC means it can't be placed on waivers or even demoted to AHL
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Quoting: palhal
NMC means it can't be placed on waivers or even demoted to AHL

Oh - so that is only NTC's where they can threaten that?
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
This gave me a good chuckle, thanks


Which piece? Because DAL is going to have to pay to dump cap here coming up so I am under the assumption that you are talking the BUF deal?
5 oct. à 11 h 49
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Which piece? Because DAL is going to have to pay to dump cap here coming up so I am under the assumption that you are talking the BUF deal?

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So Dallas is paying a 2nd to swap from a P/GP all star who is an amazing veteran presence and a terrific playoff performer for a 3rd liner…

Why would Dallas do that?
5 oct. à 12 h 3
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Well that is just god awful for Dallas.

I can't recall the last time a team was forced to pay to dump an 80 point guy. In fact, I'm fairly certain it's never, because it makes no sense at all.
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5 oct. à 12 h 4
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Dallas is paying a 2nd to swap from a P/GP all star who is an amazing veteran presence and a terrific playoff performer for a 3rd liner? Why would Dallas do that?


this is a horrible deal. at worst I could see them move Khudobin and a 2nd for cap space but Pavelski is one of their best forwards and leaders. and is on a cheap 1 year deal for them.
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Well that is just god awful for Dallas.

I can't recall the last time a team was forced to pay to dump an 80 point guy. In fact, I'm fairly certain it's never, because it makes no sense at all.

PPG player making 5.5 mil on a 1 year deal. if they aren’t in the playoffs i see them moving him but for a healthy return.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
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Someone should let him know that only Leafs need to pay to move good players.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
PPG player making 5.5 mil on a 1 year deal. if they aren’t in the playoffs i see them moving him but for a healthy return.


Yes exactly. If he keeps up his current performance, we have every possibility to receive a Giroux type return for the guy.
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Dallas is paying a 2nd to swap from a P/GP all star who is an amazing veteran presence and a terrific playoff performer for a 3rd liner? Why would Dallas do that?


1) They wouldn't.

2) Even if Robertson gets resigned and you needed to move out cap, Pavelski ain't the guy Dallas would move out because you'd only need to move out a couple of million at most since the Stars currently have $7.8M in cap space left. If Robertson gets paid somewhere between $8.5-9M that isn't too much over the cap line.

One of Faksa, Glendening, Miller, or Khudobin likely packs their bags long before Joe ever gets asked.
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Which piece? Because DAL is going to have to pay to dump cap here coming up so I am under the assumption that you are talking the BUF deal?


They may have to pay to move someone out.

But it for sure as hell isn't going to be an 80 point player making $5.5M and just so happens to have a NMC.

They have multiple plenty of options to move out before they ever consider moving out Pavelski.
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Yes exactly. If he keeps up his current performance, we have every possibility to receive a Giroux type return for the guy.


I fully expect him to regress at some point soon. but even is he regresses to 20G 50p (which is a substantial drop from last season) he is still worth his contract and adds that valuable leadership and mentorship ability. i could easily see a similar package, especially if you guys retain on his deal.
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Quoting: GenXHockey
Someone should let him know that only Leafs need to pay to move good players.


Yeah, well.

That's the Leafs... 🙃
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They may have to pay to move someone out.

But it for sure as hell isn't going to be an 80 point player making $5.5M and just so happens to have NMC.

They have multiple pkenty of options to move out before they ever consider moving out Pavelski.


at 37 he likely isn’t a 80 point guy this year… but should still be a 50 point guy. still I agree he is one of the last guys i see them moving.
5 oct. à 12 h 16
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
I fully expect him to regress at some point soon. but even is he regresses to 20G 50p (which is a substantial drop from last season) he is still worth his contract and adds that valuable leadership and mentorship ability. i could easily see a similar package, especially if you guys retain on his deal.


Exactly, but I highly doubt the Stars will be in a position to retain once they resign Robertson though.
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at 37 he likely isn’t a 80 point guy this year… but should still be a 50 point guy. still I agree he is one of the last guys i see them moving.


Agreed, but any trade is going to have to go down before cap compliancy takes effect on the 11th, regardless.

So he still technically is a 80 point guy until the season starts. 🤷‍♂️
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