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My Thoughts on Barzal

Créé par: ALjet12
Date de création initiale: 4 oct. 2022
Publié: 4 oct. 2022
Équipe: 2023-24 Islanders de New York
Explications
For the time being this contract is an over payment. However given the fact that he played in a defensive minded structure for four years and never had an elite right winger. His point total could go up to 90-95 points. He needs to shoot more because his goal totals is mediocre but he still an elite playmaker and puck carrier. I think if you put him on any team like Bruins, Rangers Blues he would reach the expected point total
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Wahlstrom, Oliver33 200 000 $
Meier, Timo88 200 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Varlamov, Semyon22 500 000 $
Motte, Tyler21 375 000 $
Domi, Max13 000 000 $
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    2. Beauvillier, Anthony
    3. 2023 1e round pick (NYI)
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    • Matt Martin: 350 000 $ (1 500 000 $)
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    4 oct. à 17 h 35
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    cap is going up, this extension starts after this season, and you need to pay for franchise players. This will take him through his prime. It is a great deal because there is no chance he gets anything less.
    4 oct. à 17 h 36
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    Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
    cap is going up, this extension starts after this season, and you need to pay for franchise players. This will take him through his prime. It is a great deal because there is no chance he gets anything less.


    I think he would get less on a contender
    4 oct. à 17 h 38
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    Quoting: ALjet12
    I think he would get less on a contender


    He’s the Isles best forward by far so it’s normal he gets paid
    Nick Suzuki might now be worth close to 8M right now but he is MTL best forward so he get paid. If he was (Suzuki) on a contender he would have get less, but that’s how things work
    4 oct. à 17 h 39
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    Barzal is alone worth it for the reason that he's the last player the Isles have before they become the most boring team in the league
    4 oct. à 17 h 41
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    Lee, Eberle, Palmieri, etc. He has had some good wings to play with….guys who can bury the puck. But his best offensive year was when they had Tavares. Maybe, instead of a winger, another top-6 offensive center would help his production?
    4 oct. à 17 h 43
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    Where is the rest of the Timo Meier trade?
    4 oct. à 17 h 48
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    Quoting: Riley816
    Where is the rest of the Timo Meier trade?

    yea sorry but that doesn’t excite me more than keeping Meier.
    4 oct. à 17 h 54
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    It's a fine contract, Barzal is a great player.
    4 oct. à 18 h 1
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    Lee, Eberle, Palmieri, etc. He has had some good wings to play with….guys who can bury the puck. But his best offensive year was when they had Tavares. Maybe, instead of a winger, another top-6 offensive center would help his production?


    Palmieri was awful with Barzal, it’s not like he was playing prime Palmieri.

    Barzal was an elite 1C from 18-21, especially at even strength. His point per 60 rates were better than a lot of 1C. Tavares had nothing to do with his great rookie season, it was the system and his linemates (Beau and Eberle) . Trotz never reunited then
    4 oct. à 18 h 11
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    Palmieri was awful with Barzal, it’s not like he was playing prime Palmieri.

    Barzal was an elite 1C from 18-21, especially at even strength. His point per 60 rates were better than a lot of 1C. Tavares had nothing to do with his great rookie season, it was the system and his linemates (Beau and Eberle) . Trotz never reunited then



    If they could add one of the following next summer, which would produce more offense?

    (1) A top-6 center, who can fly in transition, drive a line.
    (2) A top-6 winger, who can snipe, boost a Power Play.

    (I don't have an answer...just curious what others thought)
    4 oct. à 18 h 15
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    If they could add one of the following next summer, which would produce more offense?

    (1) A top-6 center, who can fly in transition, drive a line.
    (2) A top-6 winger, who can snipe, boost a Power Play.

    (I don't have an answer...just curious what others thought)


    Brock Nelson is very good in transition and can drive his own line. He's played like a 1C for two out of the last 3 seasons. That being said, I wouldn't be suprised if Nelson shifts to wing to allow Raty to be the 2C next season. Something like:

    Beauvillier - Barzal - Wahlstrom
    Nelson-Raty- UFA or trade


    I would say a top 6 winger with above average skating ability is more of a need, it doesn't have to be a sniper. The isles have finishing talent, they just choose not to put them in a position to succeed.
    4 oct. à 18 h 25
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    Quoting: Db1899
    Brock Nelson is very good in transition and can drive his own line. He's played like a 1C for two out of the last 3 seasons. That being said, I wouldn't be suprised if Nelson shifts to wing to allow Raty to be the 2C next season. Something like:

    Beauvillier - Barzal - Wahlstrom
    Nelson-Raty- UFA or trade


    I would say a top 6 winger with above average skating ability is more of a need, it doesn't have to be a sniper. The isles have finishing talent, they just choose not to put them in a position to succeed.


    If Raty were capable of 2C duties next year, that would check a lot of boxes for them.

    Alternatively,

    Beauvillier -- Barzal -- Wahlstrom
    Nelson -- Larkin -- Palmieri

    ...could do some damage.

    Will be interesting to see how they look under Lambert.
    4 oct. à 18 h 28
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    If Raty were capable of 2C duties next year, that would check a lot of boxes for them.

    Alternatively,

    Beauvillier -- Barzal -- Wahlstrom
    Nelson -- Larkin -- Palmieri

    ...could do some damage.

    Will be interesting to see how they look under Lambert.


    Unfortunately I don't think Larkin will get traded. I don't think Raty will be a big point producer, I think he's more of a 25-25 guy who thrives in transition. He has a lot of similarities to Danault. He should be a good fit.
    4 oct. à 18 h 33
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    Unfortunately I don't think Larkin will get traded. I don't think Raty will be a big point producer, I think he's more of a 25-25 guy who thrives in transition. He has a lot of similarities to Danault. He should be a good fit.


    Agree on Larkin staying in DET...but as pending UFA, he was easiest example.

    Been a while since I've done an Islanders ACGM. Maybe I'm due.
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    4 oct. à 18 h 35
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    Agree on Larkin staying in DET...but as pending UFA, he was easiest example.

    Been a while since I've done an Islanders ACGM. Maybe I'm due.


    I was not aware Larkin will be a UFA. I thought he was an RFA with arb rights. I would definitely be down to sign him If its a fair deal and he shows he can stay healthy this season.
    4 oct. à 19 h 47
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    Sharks don’t consider that close
     
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