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2 oct. 2022 à 11 h 19
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I'm not sure SEA would do that. It's not the value is bad per-se, but I'm just not sure it makes sense for them. They're still pretty loaded on the left side. McGinn is a good player and probably very much a Ran Francis player, but now that they're up against the cap I think they stick with Geekie for now. Plus, Geekie is still young and under his RFA contract.

EDIT: I forgot to add that I think FLA should be all over a deal like that. I think you could even squeeze a 4th out of them.
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I'm not sure SEA would do that. It's not the value is bad per-se, but I'm just not sure it makes sense for them. They're still pretty loaded on the left side. McGinn is a good player and probably very much a Ran Francis player, but now that they're up against the cap I think they stick with Geekie for now. Plus, Geekie is still young and under his RFA contract.

EDIT: I forgot to add that I think FLA should be all over a deal like that. I think you could even squeeze a 4th out of them.


That's fair.. was trying to find a way to move McGinn with POJ, but dont know if any team would take that.
I would love a 4th for Chad, even though he has been such an amazing servant for the club.
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2 oct. 2022 à 11 h 32
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That's fair.. was trying to find a way to move McGinn with POJ, but dont know if any team would take that.
I would love a 4th for Chad, even though he has been such an amazing servant for the club.


I would honestly trade Rutta before Chad lol. Idc that they just signed him 😂😂😂
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2 oct. 2022 à 11 h 43
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I would honestly trade Rutta before Chad lol. Idc that they just signed him 😂😂😂


Trust me, none of understand why we signed Rutta. I mean, we get why Hextall wanted him, but he was completely unnecessary, but it's become a standard for the Pens to have unnecessary dmen in the lineup.
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2 oct. 2022 à 11 h 44
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That's fair.. was trying to find a way to move McGinn with POJ, but dont know if any team would take that.
I would love a 4th for Chad, even though he has been such an amazing servant for the club.


Right now it's tough to make any trades that aren't for bigger names. The flat cap has just killed teams ability to really make solid depth trades. The only team I think that could/would be a fit for McGinn would be AZ I'd think. The other issue is McGinn was Hextall's first UFA signing, so I don't think he's going anywhere anytime soon.
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Right now it's tough to make any trades that aren't for bigger names. The flat cap has just killed teams ability to really make solid depth trades. The only team I think that could/would be a fit for McGinn would be AZ I'd think. The other issue is McGinn was Hextall's first UFA signing, so I don't think he's going anywhere anytime soon.


Agreed.. If the Pens want to create cap space to carry 3 extras, I honestly think the most likely to go is Blueger. Not something I want at all, but it just seems like the most realistic at this point..
2 oct. 2022 à 11 h 54
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Agreed.. If the Pens want to create cap space to carry 3 extras, I honestly think the most likely to go is Blueger. Not something I want at all, but it just seems like the most realistic at this point..


I really don't know how all of this is going to shake out. I have to think the fact Carter and Blueger both got injured already will give Hextall pause for moving any centers. Unfortunately, if you've been watching the pre-season, there haven't been any standouts. Poehling has looked pretty mediocre so far. DOC has looked solid, but of everyone, I think that Zohorna has looked the most capable, but I'm not sure that makes Blueger expendable. If Blueger is moved, it probably wouldn't be until the deadline if someone has shown capable of replacing him.
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I really don't know how all of this is going to shake out. I have to think the fact Carter and Blueger both got injured already will give Hextall pause for moving any centers. Unfortunately, if you've been watching the pre-season, there haven't been any standouts. Poehling has looked pretty mediocre so far. DOC has looked solid, but of everyone, I think that Zohorna has looked the most capable, but I'm not sure that makes Blueger expendable. If Blueger is moved, it probably wouldn't be until the deadline if someone has shown capable of replacing him.


Blueger was originally part of the Petry trade, so I think GMRH is not against moving him. The Pens probably see Poehling/DOC as possible replacements for Teddy. No, I dont think they are as good, but still capable 4th line guys. If they wanna go crazy, they could give Poulin that 3C spot and move Carter to 4C, but once again, I doubt it. Even if we dont make a trade in the coming days, big decisions are looming, as some solid depth guys probably hit the waiver wire.. lowkey nerve-racking times ahead as a Pens fan.
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Blueger was originally part of the Petry trade, so I think GMRH is not against moving him. The Pens probably see Poehling/DOC as possible replacements for Teddy. No, I dont think they are as good, but still capable 4th line guys. If they wanna go crazy, they could give Poulin that 3C spot and move Carter to 4C, but once again, I doubt it. Even if we dont make a trade in the coming days, big decisions are looming, as some solid depth guys probably hit the waiver wire.. lowkey nerve-racking times ahead as a Pens fan.


I definitely agree that Blueger COULD be moved based on what you said, but I really meant more from a depth standpoint. Hextall highly values players who play both C and W, so if he's concerned about injuries he may hold off for right now moving a forward. A move is definitely coming, but I think it will likely be POJ shipped out or maybe Ruhwedel. I don't see any big deals at this point.
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I definitely agree that Blueger COULD be moved based on what you said, but I really meant more from a depth standpoint. Hextall highly values players who play C and W. A move is definitely coming, but I think it will likely be POJ shipped out or maybe Ruhwedel. I don't see any big deals at this point.


That's fair. Even if POJ or Chad are moved, we still wont be able to carry 3 extras, but at least we get a return for these guys instead of possibly losing them for free on the waiver wire.
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Trust me, none of understand why we signed Rutta. I mean, we get why Hextall wanted him, but he was completely unnecessary, but it's become a standard for the Pens to have unnecessary dmen in the lineup.


U know my opinion on their d. I liked them way more when they had Marino + Matheson. Tbh I don’t even know that they needed Rackell either. They would be better off with E Rod imo.
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U know my opinion on their d. I liked them way more when they had Marino + Matheson. Tbh I don’t even know that they needed Rackell either. They would be better off with E Rod imo.


Have to disagree hard there on Rakell. Don't get me wrong, I'd like it if ERod was still a Penguin, but not at the expense of Rakell; he's exactly something the Pens have been lacking for a few years up front to round out the top-six. Jake and Rust have basically been stapled to Sid leaving Geno with a rotation of people who don't quite fit. Zucker is a slight exception because of all the injury issues, but he hasn't had a winger who's a true threat and now this allows the Sullivan to have options while not leaving Geno in the dust.

I was/am a big fan of Marino and also really liked Matheson, but I think this dynamic gives the Pens a better defense even if Rutta isn't needed. A nuance that some people don't see, especially if you don't watch enough Pens games is that Geno hasn't had a regular dman on the ice with him to help generate offense from the back. Letang gets paired far more frequently with Sid than anyone else, so having Petry will give Geno a HUGE boost on the ice. Plus he brings a physical element the Pens desperately needed and this is from someone who doesn't put a ton of value in needing to be overly physical.
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Have to disagree hard there on Rakell. Don't get me wrong, I'd like it if ERod was still a Penguin, but not at the expense of Rakell; he's exactly something the Pens have been lacking for a few years up front to round out the top-six. Jake and Rust have basically been stapled to Sid leaving Geno with a rotation of people who don't quite fit. Zucker is a slight exception because of all the injury issues, but he hasn't had a winger who's a true threat and now this allows the Sullivan to have options while not leaving Geno in the dust.

I was/am a big fan of Marino and also really liked Matheson, but I think this dynamic gives the Pens a better defense even if Rutta isn't needed. A nuance that some people don't see, especially if you don't watch enough Pens games is that Geno hasn't had a regular dman on the ice with him to help generate offense from the back. Letang gets paired far more frequently with Sid than anyone else, so having Petry will give Geno a HUGE boost on the ice. Plus he brings a physical element the Pens desperately needed and this is from someone who doesn't put a ton of value in needing to be overly physical.


I agree they should’ve added a d man. I would’ve tried to dump McGinn and Zucker on draft night. I would’ve considered a Chychrun trade tbh.
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Have to disagree hard there on Rakell. Don't get me wrong, I'd like it if ERod was still a Penguin, but not at the expense of Rakell; he's exactly something the Pens have been lacking for a few years up front to round out the top-six. Jake and Rust have basically been stapled to Sid leaving Geno with a rotation of people who don't quite fit. Zucker is a slight exception because of all the injury issues, but he hasn't had a winger who's a true threat and now this allows the Sullivan to have options while not leaving Geno in the dust.

I was/am a big fan of Marino and also really liked Matheson, but I think this dynamic gives the Pens a better defense even if Rutta isn't needed. A nuance that some people don't see, especially if you don't watch enough Pens games is that Geno hasn't had a regular dman on the ice with him to help generate offense from the back. Letang gets paired far more frequently with Sid than anyone else, so having Petry will give Geno a HUGE boost on the ice. Plus he brings a physical element the Pens desperately needed and this is from someone who doesn't put a ton of value in needing to be overly physical.


I like him I just would’ve targeted someone younger
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I agree they should’ve added a d man. I would’ve tried to dump McGinn and Zucker on draft night. I would’ve considered a Chychrun trade tbh.


McGinn is a tough one. He's honestly a very solid bottom six player. His contract is a bit too long, but he's really underrated by people on this board. Very high hockey IQ, great PKer, solid defensively, can score a little, fast skater, plays physical. I like him a lot, but I do think the Pens can afford to move him. I just don't think Hextall will, at least not now.

I may be a little biased on Zucker because I'm a fan of him, but I really expect a bounce back year. He's looked awesome in camp.
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McGinn is a tough one. He's honestly a very solid bottom six player. His contract is a bit too long, but he's really underrated by people on this board. Very high hockey IQ, great PKer, solid defensively, can score a little, fast skater, plays physical. I like him a lot, but I do think the Pens can afford to move him. I just don't think Hextall will, at least not now.

I may be a little biased on Zucker because I'm a fan of him, but I really expect a bounce back year. He's looked awesome in camp.


I loved Zucker pre injury. But I would’ve cleared as much salary as possible — and targeted Johnny G
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Trust me, none of understand why we signed Rutta. I mean, we get why Hextall wanted him, but he was completely unnecessary, but it's become a standard for the Pens to have unnecessary dmen in the lineup.


I understood it until they traded for Petry.
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