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TDL - Dadonov Holden

Créé par: Richard88
Équipe: 2022-23 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 1 oct. 2022
Publié: 1 oct. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Dadonov, Evgeni (2 500 000 $ retained)
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  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (COL)
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  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (COL)
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2382 500 000 $81 252 500 $25 000 $3 562 500 $1 247 500 $
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
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UFA - 1
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9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
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UFA - 3
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 7
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908 333 $908 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
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6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 8
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0 $0 $
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UFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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912 500 $912 500 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, C
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
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UFA - 1
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4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
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UFA - 2
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 4
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 5
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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987 500 $987 500 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 2

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1 oct. 2022 à 6 h 11
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Dadonov has no business playing for the cup champs. It's a small sample size but he was awful defensively in the games he's played during training camp. He had 2 turnovers that lead to goals by CHL players in the last few minutes of the game against the Jets

In any case, if you want him, the Habs accept.
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1 oct. 2022 à 6 h 23
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Dadonov has no business playing for the cup champs. It's a small sample size but he was awful defensively in the games he's played during training camp. He had 2 turnovers that lead to goals by CHL players in the last few minutes of the game against the Jets

In any case, if you want him, the Habs accept.


Thanks for the honest feedback. Usually fans tend to overvalue their own players so it's refreshing to see an unbiased response.

I figured that the Avs have a lot of good two-way forwards throughout the lineup but are a bit lighter on pure goalscorers or skilled forwards after Burakovsky and Kadri left. Adding a LHS forward like Dadonov would give them another offensive weapon for the middle 6 and PP2.

I think the Avs are aware of this need which is why they signed Galchenyuk to a PTO, and assuming that Newhook can handle 2C then a scoring forward could be what they go after at the deadline.
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1 oct. 2022 à 6 h 56
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Thanks for the honest feedback. Usually fans tend to overvalue their own players so it's refreshing to see an unbiased response.

I figured that the Avs have a lot of good two-way forwards throughout the lineup but are a bit lighter on pure goalscorers or skilled forwards after Burakovsky and Kadri left. Adding a LHS forward like Dadonov would give them another offensive weapon for the middle 6 and PP2.

I think the Avs are aware of this need which is why they signed Galchenyuk to a PTO, and assuming that Newhook can handle 2C then a scoring forward could be what they go after at the deadline.


I am a Habs fan, but like a lot of Quebec-born fans... I still want to see the south-western Nordiques win!
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1 oct. 2022 à 8 h 44
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If I was the AVS I would target Jake Evans on the Habs. This management team is underestimating him in a big way. You could hit another Arturri Lehkonen there, and probably for a 2nd round pick...
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Ottawa is aiming to be playing competitive hockey til the end of the season, there's more value in keeping Holden than there is in adding a 5th
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1 oct. 2022 à 9 h 45
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Ottawa is aiming to be playing competitive hockey til the end of the season, there's more value in keeping Holden than there is in adding a 5th


But if it's apparent they won't be doing so by the TDL, this should be an easy "yes" from them.
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1 oct. 2022 à 9 h 59
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Dadonov has no business playing for the cup champs. It's a small sample size but he was awful defensively in the games he's played during training camp. He had 2 turnovers that lead to goals by CHL players in the last few minutes of the game against the Jets

In any case, if you want him, the Habs accept.


Quoting: Richard88
Thanks for the honest feedback. Usually fans tend to overvalue their own players so it's refreshing to see an unbiased response.

I figured that the Avs have a lot of good two-way forwards throughout the lineup but are a bit lighter on pure goalscorers or skilled forwards after Burakovsky and Kadri left. Adding a LHS forward like Dadonov would give them another offensive weapon for the middle 6 and PP2.

I think the Avs are aware of this need which is why they signed Galchenyuk to a PTO, and assuming that Newhook can handle 2C then a scoring forward could be what they go after at the deadline.


Dadonov had a bad game in one preseason game … can you wait until they play real games before saying he’s bad lol
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1 oct. 2022 à 10 h 27
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Dadonov had a bad game in one preseason game … can you wait until they play real games before saying he’s bad lol


As someone who watched a full season in Ottawa, he's bad
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
As someone who watched a full season in Ottawa, he's bad


He might not be the best two way guy, but he regularly pots ~25 goals which is nothing to sniff at.
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If I was the AVS I would target Jake Evans on the Habs. This management team is underestimating him in a big way. You could hit another Arturri Lehkonen there, and probably for a 2nd round pick...


Not a bad idea at all, but I think the Avs will want to be frugal with how much cap they commit to the bottom 6 next season. It may not be a lot but $1.7m is still $700k more than a standard ~$1m vet 4th line deal
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He might not be the best two way guy, but he regularly pots ~25 goals which is nothing to sniff at.


I totally agree... Except you can't have more than 1 of those guys on a contending team. They mess with the mindset of the other players. Habs now have 3 apparently... Drouin, Hoffman, Dadonov...
1 oct. 2022 à 11 h 4
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Not a bad idea at all, but I think the Avs will want to be frugal with how much cap they commit to the bottom 6 next season. It may not be a lot but $1.7m is still $700k more than a standard ~$1m vet 4th line deal


I just don't see him as a 4th liner. He had 29 points last season on the absolute worst team in the league. 13 goals. He's just entering his prime. He should cost 2.5-3M. He's gonna have another great year I bet and validate himself even more.

But the most crucial thing is, he stepped up in the playoffs.
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I totally agree... Except you can't have more than 1 of those guys on a contending team. They mess with the mindset of the other players. Habs now have 3 apparently... Drouin, Hoffman, Dadonov...


Yeah for sure, I agree. The Avs don't have any forwards like that now though. Having one pure sniper who can pull a goal out of nothing like Burakovsky or Dadonov do is useful for a team as well for tight games.

The Avs are also loaded with two-way forwards on every line so there would be plenty of insulation for a forward like Dadonov no matter what line he'd be on.
1 oct. 2022 à 11 h 55
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I just don't see him as a 4th liner. He had 29 points last season on the absolute worst team in the league. 13 goals. He's just entering his prime. He should cost 2.5-3M. He's gonna have another great year I bet and validate himself even more.

But the most crucial thing is, he stepped up in the playoffs.


That's fair. I don't doubt his value and I think you're right. I just don't think the Avs will be able to squeeze him in without having to sacrifice other core pieces of the roster - which they'll probably already have to do even without adding Evans.

Also I don't see why Hughes would sell a player like that when he's still got 3 years left. If he's as valuable as you are saying then Hughes would ask for a return of a 1st or more than a 2nd which would make it even more unfeasible for the Avs who don't have many assets as it is.
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That's fair. I don't doubt his value and I think you're right. I just don't think the Avs will be able to squeeze him in without having to sacrifice other core pieces of the roster - which they'll probably already have to do even without adding Evans.

Also I don't see why Hughes would sell a player like that when he's still got 3 years left. If he's as valuable as you are saying then Hughes would ask for a return of a 1st or more than a 2nd which would make it even more unfeasible for the Avs who don't have many assets as it is.


Evans has 2 goals in the 1st period tonight. This player is so much better than the Habs and the fans give him credit for.
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Evans has 2 goals in the 1st period tonight. This player is so much better than the Habs and the fans give him credit for.


Trade him to Colorado 50% retained wink
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Trade him to Colorado 50% retained wink


3 years of retention? Will be pricey. We only get 3 retentions...
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