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Chychrun

Créé par: JAKE6
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 29 sept. 2022
Publié: 29 sept. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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No Matt knies for you. It makes more sense to me to pursue a lyubushkin type of dmen but apparently leafs are interested in chychrun, so this would be my offer.. If this doesn’t get it done too bad, Matt knies is untouchable
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2900 000 $
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29 sept. 2022 à 19 h 24
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The good ole, “here’s a bunch of crap for your star player,” ACGM.
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I forgot to mention in my post that Dregs also said that the Coyotes is willing to take back contracts but as long as they get the package they want. With that being said, I would have talks with Muzz and see with where he is at. I also don't want to lose Engvall
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29 sept. 2022 à 19 h 27
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The good ole, “here’s a bunch of crap for your star player,” ACGM.


Good ol I don’t know nothing about those players so they must be ****”
29 sept. 2022 à 19 h 28
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I forgot to mention in my post that Dregs also said that the Coyotes is willing to take back contracts but as long as they get the package they want. With that being said, I would have talks with Muzz and see with where he is at. I also don't want to lose Engvall


Cap doesn’t work unless we trim a lot of depth. Chychrun doesn’t make sense, I’d let another team overpay for him, and muzzin won’t waive
29 sept. 2022 à 19 h 28
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Good ol I don’t know nothing about those players so they must be ****”


Cmon pal. There’s nothing even interesting about this offer.
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29 sept. 2022 à 19 h 36
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Cmon pal. There’s nothing even interesting about this offer.


Shows how ignorant you are
29 sept. 2022 à 19 h 38
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Value aside, who sits when Liljegren comes back?
29 sept. 2022 à 19 h 39
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Shows how ignorant you are


You made a 6-for-1 trade and you’re calling someone else ignorant? That isn’t a thing. Might work in video games but it isn’t a real life concept.

Niemala is the only moderately interesting bit in there. That doesn’t return a top d man on an awesome contract that the coyotes are under no pressure to move.
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29 sept. 2022 à 19 h 41
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2 ppg players who had great tournaments, in niemela and hirvonen, a prime 21 year old Robertson who lit up the AHL and who’s ready for a bigger role and minutes. SDA who’s a talented playmaker. Him and Robertson were close friends in the OHL and formed a solid duo, and you add holl who can ease the loss of that dmen a bit, not flashy but still plays top 4 mins with pk every night. They can probably get better offers. But that’s the most leafs should offer imo, and to say none of those pieces are good or interesting just isn’t accurate
29 sept. 2022 à 19 h 41
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"Heres a bunch of scrap bottom-6 players! can we have your best player?"

oh dont forget about the late 3rd round pick!!
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29 sept. 2022 à 19 h 42
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
You made a 6-for-1 trade and you’re calling someone else ignorant? That isn’t a thing. Might work in video games but it isn’t a real life concept.

Niemala is the only moderately interesting bit in there. That doesn’t return a top d man on an awesome contract that the coyotes are under no pressure to move.


They have 42 contracts out of 50. So yea that trade can easily happen if they wanted too
29 sept. 2022 à 19 h 43
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"Heres a bunch of scrap bottom-6 players! can we have your best player?"

oh dont forget about the late 3rd round pick!!


Most of those pieces haven’t even played in the nhl yet. How are they bottom 6? Do you say that about other players who were ppg players at the world juniors ?
29 sept. 2022 à 19 h 47
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I don’t think the leafs should pursue chychrun to begin with as we’d have to dump decent players to add his cap hit and it would hurt the teams depth, I also said this is what I would offer and never mentioned that they would be okay with that return. This trade doesn’t get done because chychrun in Toronto doesn’t make sense to begin with
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29 sept. 2022 à 19 h 53
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They have 42 contracts out of 50. So yea that trade can easily happen if they wanted too


That’s not the issue. Go ahead and find an instance of such a trade if you can.

The reason these trades don’t happen is its inherently trading a bunch of lesser assets for one good one. That isn’t the way the NHL works.
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29 sept. 2022 à 20 h 2
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Good ol I don’t know nothing about those players so they must be ****”

It’s not a good trade for the Yotes at all. You are heavily overvaluing your prospects
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29 sept. 2022 à 20 h 4
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It’s not a good trade for the Yotes at all. You are heavily overvaluing your prospects


Keep in mind I made this knowing full well chyrchrun doesn’t fit in with the leafs, and this is what I would offer knowing he doesn’t fit in. That being said the value is off, but it doesn’t mean those prospects don’t have value, also I never said this was a good trade for the yotes, this is all I can see the leafs offering tho
29 sept. 2022 à 20 h 5
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That’s not the issue. Go ahead and find an instance of such a trade if you can.

The reason these trades don’t happen is its inherently trading a bunch of lesser assets for one good one. That isn’t the way the NHL works.


You’re right those trades never happen. The same way chychrun will never play for Toronto
29 sept. 2022 à 20 h 5
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Keep in mind I made this knowing full well chyrchrun doesn’t fit in with the leafs, and this is what I would offer knowing he doesn’t fit in. That being said the value is off, but it doesn’t mean those prospects don’t have value


No the prospects aren’t no names and they do have value it’s just not enough to warrant Arizona to trade Chychrun
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29 sept. 2022 à 20 h 7
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No the prospects aren’t no names and they do have value it’s just not enough to warrant Arizona to trade Chychrun


Bingo. Makes no sense for either teams so I really hope dubas stops calling Arizona, looking forward to see that huge blockbuster trade tho, it would be interesting to see how it unfolds
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I forgot to mention in my post that Dregs also said that the Coyotes is willing to take back contracts but as long as they get the package they want. With that being said, I would have talks with Muzz and see with where he is at. I also don't want to lose Engvall


The fact he said Arizona is willing to take back contracts tells me he’s going to Ottawa, they will give up solid prospects and picks and arizona will take on zaistev. It’s a match for both teams. They get quality players, Ottawa gets to dump and get a elite dmen
29 sept. 2022 à 20 h 19
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That’s not the issue. Go ahead and find an instance of such a trade if you can.


https://www.nhl.com/news/islanders-trade-grabner-to-maple-leafs-for-five-players/c-779475

Suck it.
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29 sept. 2022 à 20 h 27
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https://www.nhl.com/news/islanders-trade-grabner-to-maple-leafs-for-five-players/c-779475

Suck it.


Heh. In what world was Grabner an asset on the level of Chych? Grabner was an overpaid 3rd liner nearing UFA on a back loaded salary deal.
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29 sept. 2022 à 20 h 30
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Heh. In what world was Grabner an asset on the level of Chych? Grabner was an overpaid 3rd liner nearing UFA on a back loaded salary deal.


He said quantity for quality trades never happened, and he proved him wrong in a savage fashion lol, but to be fair he is right, those trades are very very rare.
29 sept. 2022 à 20 h 33
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Heh. In what world was Grabner an asset on the level of Chych? Grabner was an overpaid 3rd liner nearing UFA on a back loaded salary deal.


Just a joke, man.
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Quoting: jake4leafs
Good ol I don’t know nothing about those players so they must be ****”


Well this does not get it done. Sorry.

1st rumors are that they are looking for a 1st round pick a tip prospect and a good cost controlled NHL player. You deal does not have that.

2nd Arizona does not have to trade him unti they get wan them want, because ehe is signed to a contract and their term. They might change their minds as his contract nears.

Lastly, in this deal where is the top prospect? Yes good propsects but nothing blows them away. And adding Hol to make the deal work for you is a non starter no matter what unless you pay to make it work

Come on you ha e tonunderstand that.
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