I wouldn’t move Shane Pinto period

What has shane pinto done to justify being worth JC?

What has shane pinto done to justify being worth JC?

I'm not gonna argue Pinto is a more valuable asset, but I agree with Ottawa's decision not to move him for Chychrun

Hate to break it to ya, but Chychrun, who is slightly overrated, is still very good, on a good contract, and will cost much more than just Pinto (Probably a protected first, another prospect, a pick somewhere between 2nd-4th round).

Hate to break it to ya, but Chychrun, who is slightly overrated, is still very good, on a good contract, and will cost much more than just Pinto (Probably a protected first, another prospect, a pick somewhere between 2nd-4th round).

Pretty much any futures trade for an established good player is going to require a lot. The ask on Chychrun is just ridiculous, he's being super overrated but he's still very young, so if he does reach a different level down the road ARZ doesn't want to undersell in hindsight.

That being said I think the point of the excercise is to ignore the actual trade values, and examine the tradeoff in terms of which player is going to provide the Sens with the most value, not just now but in the coming years as well. Personally, I agree with GenXHockey in them getting a serviceable, young RHD like Bear who won't cost too much instead of playing Chychrun on his offside. The Sens are in danger of trying to get better too fast which may not yield the desired results and also impact their ability to retain potential key pieces in DeBrincat and Zub.

If they insist on Chychrun, I think they should be moving Brannstrom+ who perhaps might develop into a LHD that can play the right side just as well as Chychrun. Giving up Pinto if he can really play PK and PP well in the NHL would be a mistake. There's also the potential to have him on a super cheap two-year deal if he's extended before he does anything in the NHL.

I'm guessing the ask for Chychrun and to move Zaitsev was Pinto+Brannstrom+ 2023 1st + a 2nd or 3rd.

I wouldn’t move Shane Pinto period

What has shane pinto done to justify being worth JC?

You can't appreciate Pinto unless you watch him. The stats don't do him justice.

I personally think he'll be one of Ottawa's top 6 C's as early as 2023.

Re-assuring that Dorion and co know this as well

Pinto is an unicorn type player, you just don't move him at all.

Sanderson, Greig and Pinto are guys that you just don't trade. I'd actually rather trade DeBrincat next season if that could get us a young stud RHD



Projectability



Using stats to "appreciate" a player is stupid anyway but even more so for a player like Pinto

Ask Montreal if they regret letting Phillip Danault go

If Pinto wasn't injured all season last year these discussions wouldn't even happen.



Stutzle and Norris are both signed for 8 years though (well, 9 for Stutzle)

Stutzle - Norris - Pinto is going to be a deadly trio of Centers

Just let it happen.

If Debrincat doesn’t want to re-sign , trade him for like Ryan Pulock

His contract is great and he's RD so it wouldn't be a bad idea... plus maybe we get a pick or two

I imagine Geekie likely gets developed as a W/C if Chychrun gets moved for a package involving Pinto, and with the likelihood of the Yotes being one of the most likely destinations for Matthews, I get why they would want Pinto, but it wouldn’t make much sense for them to have Matthews, Cooley, Geekie, Pinto, and Hayton all try to play down the middle.

I’m still of the opinion the Yotes shouldn’t trade Chychrun, but Chychrun wants to go to a contender, and the Yotes are open to his requests. I imagine the big assets they want back would be a 1st, more than likely unprotected or with minimal protection in 2023, a higher end LHD prospect, and a higher end W prospect. Either which way, Ottawa won’t want to move Pinto based on his potential, and Arizona won’t move Chychrun for Pinto straight up.